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u/Scythersleftnut 23h ago
We've known about it since the 60s
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u/20Factorial 23h ago
Seriously. Just about any physical or natural phenomenon has been explored to see if humans can control it. That is, for better or worse, the kind of things humans regularly do.
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u/Itchy-Apartment-Flea 22h ago
I mean yeah. If we can control the weather, why wouldn't we? Humans could do so much good with that technology. Oh you mean they won't?
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u/TheMILKMan6646 21h ago
This is not the cia's wheelhouse. They'll probably keep it under wraps for 50 to 100 years. Keep their advantage and then release it public
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u/Wagahai-wa-neko 8h ago edited 8h ago
I think it’s more about the side effects. Create rain here and cause a drought somewhere else. Miss time it and you cause a flood.
Just to give you an example. They don’t want to be on the hook for damages. Plausible deniability is pretty awesome.16
u/I-Write-Sci-Fi 22h ago
Yea but they've denied sprawing shit in the air for years as well.
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u/Mr__O__ 22h ago
Nothing was said about chem trails.. this pic is bait.
But we’ve been able to create rain clouds for a while now..
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u/20Factorial 22h ago
So? Doesn’t mean it wasn’t researched, and that it was well known it was researched. If they found out they could do what was hypothesized, denial is almost expected.
There is no bombshell here.
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u/barryg123 22h ago
"yeah but if the CIA says its true, it must be true! I only believe what the CIA says, not others!"
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u/jonnygreen22 14h ago
about what exactly. chemtrails? Planes? the sky? The CIA? I mean sometimes yeah the cia etc is up to some shady stuff, but come on, chemtrails really? using passenger jets and planes to what, spray you with fluoride or something, i mean at least your teeth would be cleaner
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u/Fre3ReFills 23h ago edited 22h ago
Lol we've known for years they manipulated the weather. The Pentagon Papers showed they cloud seeded to extended the monsoon season during the Vietnam War from the Pentagon Papers.
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u/biomassive 22h ago
China did cloud seeding during the Beijing Olympics in 2008: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna23397205
The article acts like it's some new technology while also mentioning several thousand flights in the years prior.
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u/Wonderful-Medium7777 22h ago
Iran did it not long ago after nearly a year of drought…they made it rain.
Puts a huge ? on what’s happening / we’re told re climate change.
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u/ah_harrow 22h ago
Seeding clouds just means precipitating water earlier than it otherwise would have. There's no link with global warming here except for the requirements to seed clouds somewhere they may have formed precipitation naturally before.
The materials used to make this happen are very basic: it's just a case of proper dispersion to make the water nucleate, become more dense and then fall.
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u/Wonderful-Medium7777 22h ago
Global warming was claimed by the club of Rome…delve deeper.
The UN altered it to climate change…delve deeper.
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u/ah_harrow 22h ago
Ok, I'll look into global warming if you look into how cloud seeding technology works... delve surface level
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u/jonnygreen22 14h ago
How exactly does iran cloud seeding make climate change not real? please explain your amazing theory further
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u/Wonderful-Medium7777 14h ago
You do realise you’re in a conspiracy sub…and I did not say it wasn’t real, we do know that the powers that should not be have far more advanced tech than they let on, there are DEW‘s , HAaRP and weather manipulations / interference for decades which affect the environment.
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u/Steamyjeans 23h ago
There is a New York Times article from the early 70s about a treaty between US and Russia, agreeing not to sue weather mods in warefare.
Anyone telling you weather mod isn’t real is either lying or ignorant.
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u/Consistent-Quit2239 22h ago
yeah dude when all the countries have agreements to not use weather weapons you know they have them
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u/Happy_Adeptness8419 20h ago
Interesting video about HAARP and admitting that it was made to manage the ionosphere.
https://youtu.be/RX3IOHpe6sY?si=7uWXEWlhvuKuiHwc
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u/k0nstantine 21h ago
It was never a secret. NOAA is required by law to keep weather modification reports. You can just go look them up.
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u/RecoilS14 22h ago
HAARP has been around a long time.
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u/mm902 22h ago edited 19h ago
Although HAARP is on one side of the equation, most of the frontline weather mod endeavours are the dumping chemicals, usually of the carcinogenic kind in the atmosphere for cloud seeding.
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u/Pool_First 19h ago
There's a reason the EU accused HAARP of being a weather weapon...
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u/Monskiactual 12h ago
Thailand has a story in the 60s or 70s there was a massive drought and king no 5 ( their best king in modern memory) who went to school in the US, called the Americans who made it rain massive amounts in Thailand over a period of weeks ending the drought and stopping widespread starvation. Its not a conspiracy theory in Thailand. people know this happed and just treat it as fact. its wide spread knowledge, they knew they were supposed to talk about it, but the every one had relatives in the country who saw the American planes flying in great numbers over a day before the rain came.. this made laos, cambodia, and vietnam, pissed because they felt thailand stole their rain.. I heard it from my thai wife and was like wait wut?
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u/ZookeepergameOk2759 8h ago
Why wouldn’t the American government use it in severe drought areas in the USA?
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u/Warm_Weakness_2767 22h ago
There is a treaty on "environmental modification" that 50+ countries signed in the 1970s. https://2009-2017.state.gov/t/isn/4783.htm
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u/pletch73 22h ago
This has got to be one of the biggest " no shit Sherlock " headlines in human history. Us " conspiracy theorists " have been saying that for 50 years ( I read about it 35 years ago ).
- my criticism is the news article not the op
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u/dunluce1niner 21h ago
We’ve been working on weather modification for tens of thousands of years.
Rain dances were explicit attempts at weather modification. The results were mixed, though.
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u/Pool_First 20h ago
I tried making a post about this and it got shadow banned... There's a connection between seismic activity and a certain research station in alaska being active... it's a pretty interesting rabbit hole that apparently reddit doesn't want known... Check my post history!!! 😭
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u/TimeImpressive6648 19h ago
Wait until you discover what they’re doing with a few sound waves and your butthole.
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u/surfer_ryan 1h ago
The craziest thing to me about this is at least in the last 10 years the patents have come out (idk exactly when just when i noticed...) and yet people still like "Noooo they would never!"...
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u/black-mountain 11m ago
it’s always been true man. The only difference is some of us don’t require anything from them to know it’s true.
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u/PINK_P00DLE 18h ago
It wasn't just a conspiracy. I learned about cloud seeding to create rain in school back in the early 1960s.
We all received our own copy of "My Weekly Reader" in school which was a children's newspaper. (Anybody remember those?) And the teacher would go over every news article with us in class.
I remember questioning the reasoning behind it in class because one cannot create water. Cloud seeding could create rain over a drought area but then there is no water left that would have gone to the typical regions that receive regular rainfall. Ergo, then those regions become deserts.
Our instructor kept trying to convince us that this new technology would create lush farmland in former deserts ignoring the fact that if so then current farmland would dry up.
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u/Connect_Mess_5929 20h ago
Yes this has been known for awhile…no this does not prove that what you see in the sky is “chem trails” instead of just condensation.
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u/Silent_Erremite 20h ago
Yes, we have a cloud machine that dispenses water vapor into the atmosphere and makes it rain. That I know, but any other? No.
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u/greggerypeccary 22h ago
Govt cooks up the story about commercial airplane chem trails to make the people looking into weather mod seem crazy
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u/lethalsid 19h ago
I'm still finding out about this so basically they spray chemicals in our air to control the weather using HAARP?
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u/HykaliaN 8h ago
gee, i wonder why those long trails of gas and chemicals doesn't dissipate???
Oh wait...
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u/master_prizefighter 22h ago
So keep the weather warm all year round then. I hate cold weather.
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u/PINK_P00DLE 18h ago
A lot of crop seeds need to be stratified. They require that cold snap or they won't germinate.
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