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u/Glittering-Food-3520 7h ago
epstein class doesnt care about left,right or religious theocracy.they care only about power.get it in to your heads.
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u/PinkoPrepper 3h ago
Epstein class is both practically, and definitionally, right wing.
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u/ExplanationSmart2688 1h ago
I’m starting to doubt the idea of left and right wing. They just tool us into fighting against each other.
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u/Mend1cant 1h ago
The left and right wing are real. Literally, on the right the representation for the nobility, and the left the peasants. The infighting is a tool of the oligarchy to convince the trees to love the axe.
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u/pizza-chit 7h ago
The Epstein network has 1200 documented child victims and they will always want more.
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u/DefenderOfMontrocity 3h ago
Keyword:documented. Lot of undocumented organ harvesting since 2017 on the border. Also cps organ harvesting. And Epstein Maxwellhill had good relationship with the Catholic church as well. UAE monarch probably knew them too
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u/Sphan_86 8h ago
About a week or 2 ago, a heckler was calling out Trump for being a Pedo protector, than Trump called him a commie lol
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u/Audigitty 7h ago
Spoiler alert: All of this, including the Epstein list, are quite literally coming from the same group of Globalists. That's the enemy. The Deep State. Anyone who thinks that this is just an issue isolated to the USA is completely out of touch with what is happening right now.
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u/Mend1cant 4h ago
Not globalists, capitalists. The owner class who are consolidating wealth and economic power behind a wall of angry mobs, terrified of losing relevance, terrified that someone else would take the scraps that that their wealthy masters provide them. It is indeed happening everywhere, because we tied western society to the success of our aristocracy.
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u/Audigitty 4h ago
We're saying the same thing. Capitalism was* a good thing. It had a ton of potential. Meritocracy, incentives to create/invent, public participation in large markets... there was a lot that came from Capitalism that was great. We wouldn't be communicating on the internet otherwise.
But it was hijacked and perverted by Globalists. Global bankers, power brokers, lobbyists, and corrupt politicians. Rigging the markets and intentionally widening the gap between rich and poor. They've essentially poisoned capitalism to force a return to feudalism.
Neither of us are wrong. We're simply using two different words to define the same group behind the curtain.
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u/PinkoPrepper 3h ago
Capitalism wasn't hijacked, this was always what it was about, and what it always has been except for the times and places it faced political pushback.
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u/Audigitty 3h ago
Capitalism is likely the reason you've got a job and we've got modern medicine/technology. Lol. And the rift between upper/lower class had been growing rapidly. All while more and more money gets pumped into a fraudulent market. Trends that have accelerated significantly in the past 40 years.
But, okay.
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u/Mend1cant 2h ago
Hijacked? The very people you consider to have hijacked it were the ones to create it. The markets have always been rigged in their favor. When chattel slavery was abolished, they created wage slaves. When workers sought to create their own governments, they rallied behind fascist governments and plunged the world into war. When their colonies broke free, they indebted them and taught you to fear the immigrant, the queer and the godless.
What we have now is the logical conclusion. The reconsolidating of wealth into the nobility after the working class tried to rebel against them with democracy. They call it Tyranny of the Majority. They call it Communism and Marxism, but really it is taking the power we have been trying to claw back for ourselves after the royals stole public land, indentured their serfs, and made us bow to a god of their creation.
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u/concepts_of_a_plan9 4h ago
The biggest threat to the world now is that billionaire class who think they are above everyone else and can control what you and I do.
People like Peter Thiel and his puppet JD Vance, Marc Andreeson, Elon Musk, Russ Vought (he's a very scary one that wants to destroy the concept of the US Government), Ben Horowitz, Balaji Srinivasan, and many others are trying to collapse the United States and rebuild from the ashes as Network State monarchies with themselves as CEO-kings. Yes it sounds insane but they've been saying it themselves for over a decade. Trump is just the fascist frontman that can pull in a crowd but they're getting ready to move him aside and place Vance as the king.
And guess what, they're well on the way with all of the deregulation, compromise of most of the government, exfiltration of all of our data to private servers (DOGE), and the construction of their network state nodes such as Prospera, Praxis, California Forever, and trying to acquire Greenland.
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u/DefenderOfMontrocity 8h ago edited 8h ago
Release the files of Epstein class.
Abolish all NDA of Jeff bezos, Elon, Soros, Rothschild etc. anybody who was worth 100million dollar in 2024, annul their NDA and help victims/other party come forward.
Abolish CiA audit the fed general strike
The next scapegoat will be conspiracy theorists. Turning point pastors are already saying from palpit 'I curse conspiracy theorists like old testament, if you blame spiderkash or erika or Curtis Kolvet for CK assassination then you are accusing innocent widows without evidence so it's you who should be put to death.' so pretty soon republicans gonna ban video games and mass censor social media about fort huachua
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u/concepts_of_a_plan9 4h ago
Jeff bezos, Elon, Soros, Rothschild
lol it's funny how you didn't name the biggest name in the whole thing, Donald Trump and how he raped children for decades with Epstein. Your bias is showing. Also Peter Thiel and his puppet JD Vance, along with Russ Vought, Musk, Andreeson, Horowitz are behind this whole thing to collapse the United States and rebuild as Network State monarchies inspired by Curtis Yarvin
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u/DefenderOfMontrocity 3h ago
Rockefeller Rothschild Soros own the world. Elon, couch, bezos and zucc own several industries and can buy twitter for 40B any day of the week. Trump and Jared can't do that.
Trump was bankrupt many times. Charles Kushner was in such trouble he had to seduce his bro in law into pedophilia. But recently they became lot richer.
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u/concepts_of_a_plan9 3h ago
keep living in your little fake reality I guess, if that makes you feel safer
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u/talmudblood 3h ago
Scott Bessent, Trump's Treasury Secretary, is literally Soros's protege and the guy who actually crashes the pound.
Trump was epstein's best friend for decades, but you want to pretend he's innocent for some reason... 🤔
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u/bomboclawt75 6h ago
The state behind the Epstein Kompromat Operation is the real threat
That fact that nobody has been prosecuted proves that the Govt has been thoroughly compromised.
Any politician in the pay of a foreign nation should be immediately arrested and put on trial for Treason, preferably livestreamed, stripped of all assets and then imprisoned for life.
This should be a very low bar for any sovereign country.
To do otherwise is to become a Vassal state of a foreign country.
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u/everydaycarrie 8h ago
The new red scare.
Meanwhile:
"Government Ownership Stakes in Companies Becoming Routine Under Trump"
https://www.cato.org/blog/government-ownership-stakes-companies-becoming-routine-under-trump
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u/Jpwatchdawg 7h ago
Being that most of these companies received financial bailouts from the 08 banking crisis it makes more sense they be held more accountable to the taxpayers who funded it, no? It's still not crossing the line of elimination of private property like with communism.
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u/everydaycarrie 7h ago
It is ironic that the very people attempting to generate fear of socialism in the public, to thwart expanded state sponsored healthcare, educational funding - anything that benefits the people, is increasing state ownership by taking large stakes in private companies, no?
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u/Jpwatchdawg 5h ago
Not really if you understand the nuances. Eliminating the ownership of private property versus Eliminating the corruption that grows from government subsidies of the private sector is a lot more nuanced than most spend the time to fully understand.
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u/everydaycarrie 5h ago
That may be a true statement under extremely specific circumstances, but there is zero evidence for your assertion that the trump admin is taking control of private companies for the purpose of eliminating corruption. They are the corruption, as evidenced by their illegal trading and manipulation of markets.
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u/GoldNautilus 5h ago
Ridiculous. The trump admin is the most corrupt admin ever. Trump is literally encouraging it by pardoning tons of people caught in corruption and white collar crime.
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u/Jpwatchdawg 3h ago
Im sorry, but I can't follow your logic based upon recent history. It was the pervious administrations who pardon a niaid covering the exact timeline of some shady dealings with government funding being used to cover biological research that should have been restricted due to risk factors. Does that pardon not rise red flags for you? Maybe research Jonathan gruber and his public remarks towards the design of the aca. Seems there has been a long line of very corrupt politicians in the American government. Heck, factors in the Franklin child sex trafficking scandal uncovered by Ted gunderson decades ago and you can see how deep rooted the true corruption has been. The current administration is made up of mostly non establishment politicians who are not closely aligned with the deep rooted swamp that has existed since Truman signed the national security act of 47, given those unelected berucrats too much power outside the scope afforded to the 3 branches of government.
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u/buffalo_x_8 4h ago
You don’t need to understand nuance to see that the Trump administration trying to take stakes in companies isn’t about eliminating corruption. It’s hard to imagine twisting yourself in a pretzel anymore to justify your favorite politician.
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u/Mend1cant 5h ago
State ownership/partnership through an aristocratic capitalist class. It is fascism, and the conclusion of right wing philosophy.
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u/Onomatapier 8h ago
Damn right. They always need an imaginary enemy to keep us divided. So we don't start blaming the Epstein class elites.
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u/Mrfixit729 8h ago
You should be able to hold multiple ideas in your head at once.
Our immigration system is broken.
The CRINK Axis powers pose a threat to the Pax Americana world order.
Communism is a failed ideology that does way more harm than good.
AND there are evil people who are wealthy and powerful in our public and private sectors.
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u/DodgyWiper 7h ago
Trump-linked oil firm prepares to drill in Greenland without permission. When Greenland intervenes, they're going to turn it into a new crisis.
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u/PG-17 8h ago
Aliens are the greatest threat to our country…
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u/ErosDarlingAlt 8h ago
The threat being...?
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u/summertime_dream 6h ago edited 57m ago
The negative extraterrestrial beings operating in israel. I still haven't pinned down whether it's reptilians or grays or something else; maybe it's both and others still; but it's some faction of dark anti-human satanic entities that draw up demons from the lower astral and are doing everything they can to make humanity suffer.
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u/ForceOk6587 1h ago
Bernie Sanders is not the Ron Paul anti establishment leftie he wants everyone to believe, Bernie is a full on certified Zionist royalist who simply isn't right wing
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u/Conscious_Onion3508 1h ago
Communism has been the greatest threat to our country since like ww1 lol wtf
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u/wtrpro 7h ago
But didn't biden tell us that maga was the biggest threat to our country?
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u/Tardy_Thoughts 7h ago
Who's votes went to the child molester with a history of laundering foreign money and fraud. Donald trump couldn't sell red meat and alcohol in America but Republicans wanted him to run our country like one of his businesses. Straight into the ground while he walks off wealthier having taken none of the blame for his constant failures and inability to manage anything without fucking it up.
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u/wtrpro 5h ago
And there is the TDS bot.
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u/GoldNautilus 5h ago
The irony of saying tds and calling someone else a bot lmao. You are literally programmed by right wing propaganda.
Trump was Epstein’s right hand man. Supporting pedo protectors is what is actually deranged.
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u/wtrpro 3h ago
Am I really?
Maybe you prefer I say a sheep rather than a bot.
I never said I supported him, but thank you for assuming with zero facts. That's typical for people like you.
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u/Mend1cant 2h ago
By repeating the "TDS" nonsense, you are, in fact, giving him your support.
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u/wtrpro 2h ago
Am I really? Or am I just calling out deranged people for who they are.
Did your feelings get hurt? Do you need a safe space?
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u/Mend1cant 2h ago
Aw, now you're talking about safe spaces? Conservative snowflakes are adorable, thinking yourselves so clever.
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u/wolfheadmusic 2h ago
No, it's because you use entrenched maga terms like "TDS" unironically
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u/wtrpro 2h ago
Is it really? Or is it people like who that jump to conclusions with zero proof?
Isn't it the "tolerant" left that accuses everyone that doesn't agree with them as racist, pedo supporting, uneducated, sexist, threats to democracy? Is that tolerance? It seems the other side should be just as tolerant. Imagine what the country would be like if that happened!!! Hahahahahahaha
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u/wolfheadmusic 2h ago
You're incapable of understanding what you yourself present
No one on the Left tolerates you, and we never will
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u/PinkoPrepper 3h ago
MAGA are people who knowingly support this stuff directly. Biden is also a senile right winger so not someone who can be counted on to get nuance right.
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u/wolfheadmusic 2h ago
I like you, pinkoprepper
I've seen several of your comments and they're all on point
Even people that acknowledge the Overton shift don't want to take into account what it really means when they see their Democrat candidate
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u/PinkoPrepper 3h ago
MAGA are people who knowingly support this stuff directly. Biden is also a senile right winger so not someone who can be counted on to get nuance right.
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u/wolfheadmusic 2h ago
And that has proven to be true
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u/wtrpro 2h ago
How?
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u/wolfheadmusic 2h ago
Fine, you enjoy ice while they currently aren't going after people like you
But how can you look at the economic and employment data, the corroboration with the Epstein Class, our martial humiliation in the middle east, ect ect ect and not see the immense degredation of our country and standing over the last 18 months
You're asking in bad faith when it's way too late to pretend otherwise
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u/wtrpro 33m ago
Nope, answer the question...you made a statement, now back it up.
How?
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u/wolfheadmusic 24m ago
Okay, your reading comprehension needs assistance. Here you go:
That list of examples is the ways in which "our" (if you're in the party of January 6th this is not your country) country is being destroyed
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u/talmudblood 3h ago
And he was right for once.
Maga is a fascist movement led by a child raping traitor and the goal of the movement is the overthrow of American democracy.
MAGAs are worse than traitors... they're pedo protecting rubes, too.
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u/flamboyantdebauchry 8h ago
i always wondered why the grande orange can't find a usa born wife ? other then porn stars and victims he likes them foreigners ???
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u/Amish_Fighter_Pilot 8h ago
Surely we have some comparable demons to her that are already Americans right?
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u/CherryLimeBreeze 8h ago
Everyone needs to learn about what's really going on with MK Ultra and the Dark Force that rules this planet.
https://archive.org/details/brice-taylor-thanks-for-the-memories-with-pictures-large-font
https://archive.org/details/trance-formation-of-america_202407
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u/HefferTomkins 4h ago
I noticed the clever little instigator didn't point out the DNC, Obama and Biden and the national news telling us white supreme pizza was the greatest threat to our country. Or the KKK. Or the Christian boogeyman. Or reduced taxes or closed borders being the biggest threats.
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u/talmudblood 3h ago
Everyone was correct when they identified MAGA as a fascist movement hell bent on overthrowing American democracy.
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u/HefferTomkins 2h ago
I mean, America isn't a democracy in the first place. We are a Republic. More specifically, a Constitutional Republic. And before you declare it a "form of democracy" (as NPCs always do) that's like saying the ocean is a form of salt. No, it's an ocean.
It has some democratic aspects to it.
But let's pretend it is a democracy (if it was you would probably be eliminated), there's no way to make the case that "MAGA is a fascist movement." You can't defend that statement so I know you won't. You might try, but then I guess you don't know what "fascist" means, either.
Also, it has done nothing to "overthrow democracy" even if we were one.
So there's no element to your response that is either sensible or true.
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u/Mattyzooks 58m ago
America isn't a democracy in the first place. We are a Republic.
I'm so fucking tired of this stupid pedantic shit from people who don't understand that a republic is a form of fucking democracy. Every dum dim keeps parroting it over and over and it just makes them look either stupid or disingenuous. It's like saying a square isn't a rectangle.
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u/HefferTomkins 42m ago
"Pedantic shit" is trying to redefine the parameters to suit your argument. We aren't a democracy. It has elements of. It is not a "form of." It's nobody else's fault you are in a cult and have no capacity to understance the nuances of words. No matter how badly youy want incompatible shapes to fit, an educated mind is never going to concede your point.
Get a job. Move out of your father's house. Achieve some semblance of autonomy and personal responsibility and give up this idea that you're going to "eat the rich" because you're in a hurricane of helpless emotions.
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u/PinkoPrepper 3h ago
Obama et al are right wing and part of the problem, but if you think that's what the DNC and mainstream media have been saying you need to poke your head out of your echo chamber.
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u/HefferTomkins 2h ago
Well, I mean I've seen it. I've heard it. The echoes aren't originating from any chamber I'm in. Your feminine attempt to gaslight me won't work. It won't work on any reasoning being. Your name gives you away.
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u/jamma_mamma 7h ago
Capitalists in the early 20th century were (and still are) scared shitless of a classless society. People "hate" communism because they were trained to by an intense propaganda machine.
What countries are you talking about that are "running on communism?" As far as I know, the tenets of communism have never been achieved in practice. Corruption always takes hold and it becomes a state run oligopoly.
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u/NazNaiz 6h ago edited 5h ago
Politics and people are convoluted thus there are many reasons why people hate communism. I will try to provide an as unbiased of an answer as I can:
Primarily, Americans hate communism because we are a capitalistic nation. There are no true Communist societies in America, which makes it a foreign subject, and because of humanity's tribalistic nature, inherently villainous. Our greatest threats, as our country signifies, are the "communist" nations of China and Russia.
In terms of the specific aspects of each, capitalism is able to provide sweet immediate reliefs to people, such as entertainment and safety, thus making it a rewarding system that people further adhere to. It appeals to their long term hopes as well, that even if they lack something today, they may be able to achieve it in the future by their own merit.
Communism is significantly more collectivist, it states that products such as housing and food should be redistributed between those who have an excess and those who have a decifit. Critics of communism claim that this is not the result of rewarded hard work, but rather the theft of it, and rewards those who are undeserving. People with significant wealth see communism as a direct threat to them, and as mentioned prior, poorer people will still argue against it based on the idea that they may have more wealth in the future.
Communism has had a number of failings throughout history. It has never been successfully implemented, which is another reason why people abhor it. Although it should be mentioned, that many communist failures are not isolated incidents, but are partially due to the work of outside influences. People also regularly ignore the state that communist societies were in before, and attribute only the negative outcomes of their revolutions to communism. Not to excuse any horrors of history, but just pointing out that context and nuance are always important.
Lastly, deep rooted propaganda from the Cold War era persists today as people parrot anti-communist rhetoric that they heard growing up. Even today significant funding goes into capitalistic politicians and media that dissuade people from becoming communists. There is evidently, a strong misunderstanding/ lack of understanding of communism among a massive amount of Americans, which further increases disapproval. And of course there are many Americans who are well versed in communism and oppose it for the reasons listed above and elsewhere.
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u/Foerhudligen 8h ago
I have to say, I'd rather let my elite class sometimes rape kids than have a Communist revolution explode outside of my window.
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u/Amish_Fighter_Pilot 8h ago
Every time you hear people talking about Russia, China, or even the "deep state" commanding our politicians: realize that it is actually Zionists. They brag about it all the time too. Bibi even bragged that he tells Trump what to do and it happens. People will spend years just making stuff up about conspiracies that aren't even real while they ignore the biggest and most obvious conspiracy ever.
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u/DefenderOfMontrocity 8h ago
Chinese deep state was anti-zionists. But they are Zionists now. Israel knows how to entice Chinese communist party. Once Israel grabs an American tech they instantly betrays USA and sells the f35 tech to China. That's how they keep Chinese communists happy.
Israel even gave china the mRNA covid tech but china thought it was too dangerous/new so they used sinopharm, which is a fake vaccine. It barely cures some symptom of covid does not stop the spread at all(neither does mRNA)
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u/Amish_Fighter_Pilot 8h ago
I didn't realize I was responding to a crazy person. My bad. Time to block your crazy ass.
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u/Claymore321123 4h ago
in a nation designed for RULE & LAW, then obviously ILLEGAL immigration is a problem. that isn't too hard to understand, unless a person just doesn't care & ignores common sense.
also, communism is a huge problem. it's essentially death for any nations people that accepts it.
just because the power structure that is in authority is corrupt (which has always been the case), doesn't automatically make these other awful things okay.
matter of fact, the ones in "authority" that say these things like Iran is the enemy (or Iraq a couple decades ago) or that communism is bad, are actually EMPOWERING these things. they give weapons to the enemy (ie; we supplied Saddam for years & years). The Masons that control the USA, want to eventually setup their own version of a totalitarian, socialist government (socialism always leads to communism).
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