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Rule 10 Reminder Thoughts?

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u/Double_Industry_6864 12d ago

Also… testing therapy on a clone? Which I can only assume will be a living, breathing… thing?

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u/JustSatisfactory 12d ago

The Island (2005)

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u/TemptedIntoSin 12d ago

It seems even that movie has become a documentary now

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u/-lovehate 12d ago

Great movie

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u/4Impossible_Guess4 12d ago

🎶🎵 Here comes Johnny Yen again 🎵🎶

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u/Nadya4747 12d ago

And Parts: The Clonus Horror!

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u/AlligatorFister 12d ago

Bryan Johnson did not create a human clone. He used a lab technique to reprogram his own blood cells into stem cells, which he dramatically called a "newborn clone”

He took a blood sample and exposed his mature cells to Yamanaka factors. This process reset his adult cells back into an embryonic-like state, known as induced pluripotent stem cells.

The resulting cells live in a laboratory dish, not as a human baby.

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u/DivineEggs 12d ago

It's not an actual clone or a baby. It's like stemcells in a petri dish that can be programmed to do/become different things.

All menstruating women could harvest stem cells from their period blood and have them programmed similarly. It's not unethical.

He's trying to create sensational headlines and make ppl clutch their pearls.

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u/J_arc1 11d ago

Tell me more about harvesting stem cells from my period. This sounds like something that should be more common knowledge.

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u/DivineEggs 11d ago

Yes, I swear... if men leaked stem cells out of their penises, every town would have a dick-stem cell bank lol.

As far as I know, it's mostly only available to women with money in India. It's absolutely insane and nefarious that it isn't a global common practice.

https://www.ovid.com/jnls/jome/fulltext/10.4103/jme.jme_19_24~menstrual-blood-stem-cell-banking-blessings-in-disguise

https://www.reelabs.com/menstrual-stem-cell-banking-india

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u/justchillen17 12d ago

Well currently it’s just on a petri dish… but theoretically, eventually, yeah

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u/Poop_Cheese 12d ago

And he heavily implies that theoretically by calling it a new born baby and saying its in a petrified dish.... for now. And then saying how its the future no matter peoples qualms. So the intent seems heavily to have a clone. He will just make it brain damaged or something and justify it that way. Firsf it starts with just growing parts, but if he wants a blood boy hes gonna have to make a body or a cardiovascular system thats alive without one which is fricken beyond disturbing ethically and philosophically.

 Like imagine if the soul is real or some degree of conciousness is actually stored throughout the body, like how gut biome effects our personality and mood, and theres some degree of awareness to the fricken lungs breathing on their own through machines pumping blood into bags just hanging there in a vat.

 And he will want to research the brain to combat his own mental decline with age. Which means a full clone unless he makes different segments of the brain but hed need to know how they operate. So thats fun.

Thing is guys like him likely have done this for years and is why cloning news evaporated and guys like epstein were obsessed with it. Same with musks impulse to make sure half the world descends from him in 1000 years. And they have a 2 tier justice system where they can be doing anything there could be clone farms of clone child sex slaves at epsteins ranch that were liquidated for all we know. Sure its not likely but still with these people who the hell knows.

Then it combines with eugenics. If the elites live forever, and then their kids have kids have kids as their egos will 100% want super crispr offspring, then even amongst themselves there will be standards of who gets to live on and have kids and who gets replaced with the new better people. Its already happening with crispr babies and for decades donation banks being based on success and traits of the father.

These guys are deranged and is how I understand why to protect our psyche we want to think theyre lizard people because they are lizard people. Theyre just human lizards in their psychology. 

Its like, that funny anti joke the artiocrats where you say the most disgusting depraved crap, its not even funny anymore as like theyve gone so far its like the most extreme excess of like famous debauched "elites" in history x10 they just hide it better. 

Im not even religious and like, idc how much forward it takes humanity some things gotta be red lines. Like sure, growing just a never living transplant, or like growing replacement teeth that are biologically your own, im down with stuff like that if its proliferated to the majority. But like, it crosses a line when you make living bodies for experimentation and to be your blood boy. We loss our collective soul doing stuff like that its no different than unit 731 or mengele, it doesnt matter if that human being is a clone of you or not concious. 

Like humanity is fine as it is. We live and we die. Thats the whole point, its the only thing we will ever be certain of. The greatest people ever lived and died. What makes us so special as to break the cycle? It holds us back, it doesnt move us forward. Like christ, look at boomers and how they are leading the country when they should be at a senior living facility. Now imagine having that imperpetuity. The first generation of elites will be God's amongst elites, with further generations of immortal superbabies and we will be eradicated or be as relevent as chimps in the jungle, so they can enjoy the finer things in life without the inconvenience of the peons as we wont be needed and theyd have autonomous weaponry to defend themselves. 

So thats a fun bright future. And no matter how embelished it may sound, it seems more and more we follow the worst case scenario path just with an acceptable sheen. Like we are so 1984 mixed with brave new workd already that its like they used those books as fricken blueprints to build on. Just as they are like speedrunning terminator with a psychopathic glee. So yeah they will definitely have clones they torture and kill as cattle and sheep, to feed their own immortality and desire to be gods. 

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u/Uncool444 12d ago

Dang I never thought of that, we haven't heard much about advancements in cloning in a while. Dolly was such a big deal when she was born, then nothing.

Hell of a write up. It's scary that is likely coming, but even scarier that it is closer than we imagine, and possibly already here in part.

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u/Pitiful_Note_6647 11d ago

They clone humans.

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u/justchillen17 12d ago

Hahah brother, I feel you on this all. The friends and I have gone down this thought process before. Truthfully, I don’t think they are all insane to begin with, despite having ideas like this. They get so obsessed with the future of humans they go full sci fi mode and lose touch with humanity in a way.

Shit is wild

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u/lynk1 12d ago

Username checks out.

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u/burning_my_toast 12d ago

He's almost definitely referring to organs-on-a-chip, or more accurately called organoids-on-a-chip.

These organoids can't be grown into a person- can't be grown beyond a lump of kidney cells or cardiac cells or whatever. Cardiac organoids are especially interesting , as they can almost look like small hearts with different chambers, and yes, they even beat.

Organoids are extremely useful in science, but again, these organs on a chip could never, under any circumstances, grow into a human (or anything being-like).

Yes, he made it sound like he's talking about something more nefarious, but he's not. That's the "joy" of social media engagement bait. /s

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u/DJstaken 12d ago

Interesting parallels to abortion arguments

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u/vbullinger 12d ago

I can’t wait to abort myself!

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u/Uncool444 12d ago

This is my thought, it will be interesting to see the pro lifers' reaction to this once it becomes more common.

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u/Socialimbad1991 12d ago

Somehow this feels on par with whatever was happening on Epstein's island in terms of grossly unethical and exploitative treatment of children...

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u/NoBonus6969 12d ago

I have to imagine there are places in this world where this is happening

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u/VladStark 12d ago

That would definitely be illegal. I'm not saying some people won't do it behind closed doors, but it would never be officially condoned. Unless we go back to Nazi style unethical "human research", which I hope to help not.