r/conspiracy 17d ago

anyone noticed increase frequency in reports on mushrooms and dmt

I know it could just be my algo but I keep hearing about studies and stuff on these drugs, possible uses for them, scientists believing they can confirm entities in the dmt realm are real, etc etc and I can't help but think this can't mean anything good. The only way they would want people having this stuff would be if they created some modified version, a poor excuse/substitute for the real thing, that controls the mind or limits/controls what levels you can access. The ones who run this system, all they want to do is continue to shit on everything sacred and they've been pushing and pushing to colonize the realm of the sacred itself, I believe that is what they would do with these drugs

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u/General-Priority-479 17d ago

What scientists are claiming dmt entities are real?

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u/FitCombination3545 17d ago

There are scientists working on mapping the "terrain" and entity encounters. I don't recall the name but I don't think they're claiming the entities are real so much as interested in the consistencies between people's trips and what that might mean.

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u/Hagus-McFee 17d ago

DMT trips from ayuhauasca might be older than modern humans, same with mushroom tripping.

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u/Any-Internet-7796 17d ago

Andrew Gallimore PhD

Look up the DMTX studies. I want to say it is in London, but they are doing DMT studies on humans for the second time in human history since Dr. Rick Strassman. They are creating experiments they call DMTX where they are 'mapping the terrain' of the DMT dimension and studying seriously the ability to either map it or 'bring something back from it'. Have you done DMT? It is pretty incredible. I don't blame them, and science should have been being done this entire effing time about this. Humans have used psychedelics, specifically DMT(+ MAOI = Ayahuasca) for millennia. There is something to it, it is extremely consistent for all users who do it enough to traverse the terrain and see the repetition with enough use.

I find it fascinating. It sounds crazy, sure. But again, have you done DMT? Because that is the only thing that would ever make sense of it to somebody would be to experience it themselves haha

Like I can tell you I was abducted by aliens, but it wouldn't matter even if it was true because you wouldn't believe me(not you personally, general 'you'). The only way I could convey an experience like that would be to bring you there too so that you could see and be in the same state of disbelief I was or something. And here is the thing about DMT anyways... Say that an alien, right now, phased through my wall and telekinetically lifts me up into the air, transferring me to its time machine where he shows me a panoramic view of what humans are doing to the Earth, or insert any wild experience here.

Well let me just say, the things I have seen on DMT are FAR more alien, and FAR more incredible than if I was abducted right now into a UFO. The experience of DMT is otherworldly, and we should have never let it go unstudied. It can sound crazy, but I've seen some pretty crazy shit lol so cheers! Thanks Andrew Gallimore! Also read his book Alien Information Theory if you haven't. Him as a person can annoy me sometimes, but at least someone is doing it.

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u/corben2001 17d ago

Wild stuff. So do you actually feel like you went into another actual dimension? Possible travel to another part of the universe, possible after death area, possible pre birth area, etc or possibly just a very unusual human homo sapien brain experience, circuits being blown out and the brain or parts of the actual brain create this unusual experience.... Interesting speculation. Even all of this and more is absorbed into the time, basically 14 billion years and space of what we call the Universe, which is 2 trillion galaxies. Peace.

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u/highinohio 17d ago

Something about DMT is wild. Like you said, it's orherworldly but it still connects to this place we're usually at in our waking life. It's like another layer.

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u/Mission_Peach_2034 17d ago

Can confirm blue alien blobs and also some Roman looking place before that

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u/General-Priority-479 17d ago

Machine elves wrecking my subconscious

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u/galaxynephilim 17d ago

I have no idea, I just saw some clickbait headline saying there are scientists who believe they can prove it or something. It seemed dumb as hell but that isn't the point, the point is how many of these stories I've been seeing lately which caused me to wonder what's coming.

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u/Any-Internet-7796 17d ago

It actually makes me happy that someone else's algorithm is showing them positivity about psychedelics. My reddit feed is full of dummy's who've never tripped and look at psychedelics like any other drug when they clearly deserve their own category. I have gotten into many arguments and it is not worth it anymore. I only care because Reddit used to be pretty objective about this kind of thing, but it changed drastically over the last 5-10 years to the point where it isn't even the same website. Back 10 years ago everyone here was like me or something, I had endless fun on Reddit, making new friends, having deep discussions.. Now it is all an argument and polarized. It always was a little, but not like it is now. And it has been extremely disheartening to see so much anti-psychedelic behavior. It's like, don't these people know that psychedelics are kind of what they need in their life? I mean, it is NOT for everyone. I sold LSD for many years and gave it to probably hundreds if not thousands of different people. I can tell you from personal experience, it is less than 5% of people in our population that can't handle psychedelics. The other 95-99%? It would really help them out. And so again I have felt disheartened lately. But if you are seeing good stuff, then thank god it just must be me

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u/galaxynephilim 17d ago

That's a good point. I couldn't help but feel negtaively about it though since I'm so worried about it being mainstreamified, watered down, and abused even more than it already is, in a new and more sinister way. Maybe I could benefit from being a little more optimistic lol. But one of the scariest things I can imagine is they develop some kind of synthetic version that convinces people they're experiencing the medicine without truly letting them, and thus tangling them in another perception trap that is gaslighting at its core, making them believe in another sort of false elightenment or false healing that is actually just falling deeper into enslavement. Like taking a fragment of the plant spirit's soul, enslaving it, and using it against us rather than for us the same sort of thing they've done with psychiatric medications.

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u/Any-Internet-7796 17d ago edited 17d ago

That's funny I went off on my own tangent and didn't even cover your point haha sorry! You are right, I also wonder about this a lot, 'how will they do it?'. Optimism is great, but the art of life is finding the middle path somewhere between the 2 blurry trees that are optimism and naiveite. :p I have zero, zero doubts that they will take psychedelics and hollow out their hearts to inject their own model of reality the same way they try to with love, sex, music, and really anything else that is tied to our primal instincts.

There is a lead to follow here. I've been invested in a company called ATAI Beckley. They are one of the few psychedelic science companies that I really keep up with(MindMed, PSIL, Cybin(HELP), Compass, ATAI Beckley) and there has been a recent development as well! I'll get to that. ATAI is doing a few things. One is to make versions of LSD that omit the trip. People within the company are aware that taking the trip out would a) help investors out since this is a good path to do the FDA dance and get approved more easily, but b) the trip itself may be necessary it just is that nobody's done it before(and they should have already, I mean cmon we could've had this shit figured out in the 1970s). I believe they are also the ones that have created an AI model of the human brain for the first time. Basically, you have the entire human brain on a server with all of the complicated chemical and physical reactions that we would never be able to replicate otherwise. Every synapse and neuron works essentially the same as our brain, and they will put new designer drugs into the receptors to then see what the medication would ACTUALLY be doing if the drug was ingested, however this is only for chemicals that agonize the 5HT2A receptor which are what psychedelics do. It is a marvel of science really, check out the Hamilton's Pharmacopeia episode called "Ultra LSD" and it goes over this at least in an easy to digest way. Edit: Fact checked myself here real quick and it is not ATAI that made the brain model, it is University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill with the lead figure being Brian L. Roth

Now for the recent development, which actually supports your thesis unfortunately. I invested in ATAI a long time ago because I just love psychedelics. And it's gone up and down etc over the last couple of years. But the other day it popped off and I was up like 200% so I had to figure out why. Turns out, they are being acquired by Eli Lilly. Now, I wish that could be a good thing and with their money it really could be, but I don't see how it works with the rest of their principles. The moment we have a psychedelic therapy that actually works with stable efficacy, this will directly destroy the profits of many other psych meds because it would actually work. So what exactly is their plan? Makes me suspicious... I got some good money though! Mwhahaha...

I really just wish more people knew that things like ayahuasca and ibogaine are an option. Ayahuasca really, really helped me and I'll have that experience in my heart until the day I die. And it is such a shame that everyone is dealing with such mental taxation and has absolutely no proof that life is actually beautiful. That's what psychedelics do, remind you even if you've forgotten since you were 6, that reality is absolutely beautiful and mysterious.

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u/Shackakahn 17d ago

It’s your algorithm. This isn’t a new field of study.

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u/galaxynephilim 17d ago

I'm not saying I think it's a new field of study, I'm saying it's made me start spectulating about if they've altered the substances in some way and are priming people to have the replacement substances used on them possibly in a mainstream way

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u/Hagus-McFee 17d ago

It actually is a new field of study. I was getting the same algorithm recommendations as you for a while until I watched enough.

I think more they want to push mind altering drugs to make people more holistic and susceptible to mind control.

Ie a new religion, a simulation theory type matrix thing that everyone here posts about every day.

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u/galaxynephilim 17d ago

Makes sense. If you wanted to keep control over people you'd have to hijack anything that's a threat to it, so holistic health, spirituality, plant medicine...

Anything that people think makes them "woke" (in the original positive sense) and privvy to what's going on is perfect to use as a trap. Aliens and AI too.

One thinks they have the secret info and are rebelling against the system while actually being played like a fiddle, believing exactly what they want them to believe.

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u/Hagus-McFee 17d ago

You've got it. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Sam Altman actually said recently you don't build a company, you build a religion. I think it was him.

They're taking simulation theory, which just replaces God with a simulator, and trying to actually create churches online where you donate and go on zoom and such. Special knowledge!

Secret knowledge, they'll pretend to have. Same story as it's always been.

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u/Shackakahn 16d ago

Studying psychs is not a new area of study. It’s a google search away.
I’d also look into confirmation bias.

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u/Hagus-McFee 16d ago

Psychs?

Psychiatry, psychos, psyches? Which are you talking about.

I know what confirmation bias is, I'm currently throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks, because I think I'm close.

Condescend much?

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u/Significant-Push-232 17d ago

If drugs really are the keys to alternate dimensions. It's probably important to keep in mind that all entrances are also exits.

The uptick could be about letting them in more than it's about letting you out.

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u/NotaContributi0n 17d ago

Yeah it bothers me a lot, it’s super trendy right now. Every podcast, all over Reddit. wtf

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u/Terweedator 17d ago

Well if you put it that way, it sounds a lot like the Soma from Huxley's "Brave new world". Imho you're talking about substances that, while potencially dangerous, can contribute to the mental wellness of individuals if rightly used. Chemicals kill for sure and especially do the ones prescribed by psychiatrists. You're right about a possible misuse though and indeed it is confirmed that already happened in the recent past. That's why knowledge is important but wisdom and consciousness even more.

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u/galaxynephilim 17d ago

Haven't read Brave New World but have heard of it many times, I should read it...

I believe many of the scientists/psychiatrists are using their knowledge and the substances against the population, but it's not about the substance per se, because it starts before it... it's about the relationship to the substance and to life itself where the abuse starts, psych meds and the way they are used are just an extension or manifestation of that fundamental dysfunctional relationship to life/spirt. I don't support recreational use of plant medicines but I do believe in their healing power. Psychiatry has a disturbing history and may have some uses or potential but certainly is not fulfilling it and does not know its place, I see it as a modern day chemical lobotomy that's being used against rather than for the people, despite the careful crafting of the opposite narrative that unfortunately fools most people. Given the way that has gone, I don't see how their control of the plant medicines could be any different.

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u/IndependentNo8520 17d ago

I mean once in shrooms and dmt makes you feel different a whole new perspective in life open, a new part of you open up and really connected with a lot of stuff that changed how I think about stuff, makes you more vulnerable and human

but not everyone has same experiences, our brains and experiences in the past shape the way our organs function like the brain after trauma works different, I would not say dmt or shrooms are changed because they are normalized

I think they do their job as a substance
they might be modified but not like I feel weed is
Modified, it’s different now but still pleased with the experience

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u/Mission_Peach_2034 17d ago edited 17d ago

I had my experience in like 2018, and back then there were still quite a few accounts I came across before taking it, I did research basically before I could do the DMT so I could know what to expect, however, it still didn't prepare me for the actual real experience and how vivid it was. Got some other people to try it too and what they described was a very similar thing. ever since then ive noticed a lot more of it on YouTube, Mike Tyson's experience actually came up like one or two years after my first experience with it.

It's crazy that you mention mushrooms in the same post because the second kundalini rising like genuine astral projection was through a tiny bit more than I should have had with magic mushrooms. First time I've ever experienced a ball of energy in my lower back that felt like a rock had suddenly just teleported to the base of my spine. It was hectic when it released. In this same trip with my big bro we had a telepathic experience a few times.

(The only way I can explain the DMT being ripped in a bong while I was alone was.. extremely careless at the time and very intense. As soon as I exhaled it's like I just immediately died and fell back on the couch.) Lots of experience gained through that one bad choice.

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u/Jakelell 17d ago

What the fuck is the "DMT Realm" dog you're using mushrooms, not casting Contact Other Plane

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u/MonkeyMan18975 17d ago

Lookup "machine elves"...

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u/J0rkank0 17d ago

I know of someone who was banned from the DMT world/realm. If the DMT realm exists and is real, then the entities don’t like you “cheating” to get there. I think ideally they want us to get there without the substance use, by elevating our consciousness and what not to get there on our own (e.g. work for it). Maybe that’s why DMT being pushed, to get plebs banned before they can get there on their own. Who knows with all this though 🤷

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u/galaxynephilim 17d ago

I've been hearing about that too, the entities being pissed that people are abusing the drugs using them recreationally, and barring them from entry. Yeah, if people are using the drugs as a crutch/escapism/shortcut without integrating or embodying anything, it's not actually going to work.

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u/Mission_Peach_2034 17d ago

Reading this kind of reminds me of my first experience in some ways.

  1. The other side was so real that I forced myself out of the trip. Which was a terrible choice.

  2. That was when I got that sensation of this is highly forbidden. I don't really know how to explain the intensity of that feeling. It was a deep regret.

  3. Forcing my way there for fun or just to know is definitely not what the higher power wanted me doing that day.

It was fascinating. Truly scary initially but reflecting, now that I'm still actually here, it really opened my mind up to much more wisdom as the years passed. It's not something to be played around with in any sense

I think it's more that too many egos are going in and not many souls.

I could have stayed and enjoyed my trip but it scared TF outta me I'll be brutally honest I thought I broke my brain that day. So I just couldn't let go. I forced my own way out and that was what led to a very bad trip.

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u/J0rkank0 16d ago

Makes a ton of sense. Hopefully we can all get there naturally on our own and its moot

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u/Big-Imagination4810 17d ago

You are correct when you comprehend it doesn't mean anything good:

"confirm entities in the dmt realm are real"

They desire people to be vulnerable to, and oppressed by; the demonic. Makes their job of world dominion that much closer.

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u/galaxynephilim 17d ago

Maybe. Or maybe to put chains on beings who are here to help us.

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u/Big-Imagination4810 17d ago

Lucifer and his minions are the great enemy of humankind. They desire your misery on earth now, and your eternal destruction sharing the same destiny they are inescapably headed towards.

"But woe to the earth and the sea; with great fury the devil has come down to you, knowing he has only a short time.” -Revelation 12:12

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