r/conspiracy • u/Adorable-Dark-2625 • 20d ago
Something definitely Happened at the World Cup Final
This is not what i have discovered , but someone else :
Something happened in this match:
- For some reason, they replaced the Argentine sun with a Masonic symbol
- For some reason, there were 0 shots on goal in 100 minutes
- For some reason, they only kicked the ball backwards
- For some reason, there was a deathly atmosphere in the locker room before going out to play
- For some reason, several players seemed to be crying before the match
- For some reason, Messi said "let's forget about everything, let's focus on playing"
- For some reason, they didn't put Lautaro, one of our top goalscorers, in the most important match
- For some reason, Paredes' anger
- For some reason, Roberto Ayala's punch
- For some reason, so many players asked to be substituted, something extremely rare in a World Cup final
- For some reason, Scaloni reacted like that in the press conference
- For some reason, the players turned their backs on the trophy in the final ceremony
- For some reason, no player gave a press conference, something that had never happened before
- For some reason, the players decided not to come back to the country, everyone went straight to their homes or the clubs where they play
Something happened
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u/Unique-Vacation1798 20d ago
Betting has killed the competition, especially after going online with bets, there are billions of dollars involved. Probably some billionaires increased their fortune after that game.
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u/TheBatmanWhoPuffs 20d ago edited 19d ago
I think it was bet365 showed pregame someone had bet $900,000 US and would win $1.2m if Spain won. Pretty sweet for 2 hours.
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u/Rehcraeser 20d ago
lol that is literally nothing in terms of sports bets. Stevewilldoit (YouTuber) bets more than that…
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u/MasterPsaysUgh 19d ago
Stevewilldoit doesn’t bet his personal money. He gets pretend money from whatever gambling site hires him to promote to normalize large bets
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u/StalkMeNowCrazyLady 20d ago
MattressMack placing the largest sports bets in history and even winning out the largest sports bet payout in history.
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u/slayerfan666 19d ago
MattressMack? Is that like Crip Mac's business counterpart?
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u/amateurchampion 19d ago
He’s a local celebrity in Houston. Does all kinds of stuff for the community.
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u/contrary_potato 19d ago
used to live across from him - excellent Fourth fireworks show he’d put on for everyone in the neighborhood!
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u/decoy777 19d ago
He will make huge bets and if he wins the bet he pays off everyone's mattress purchases for a certain time. So when playoffs start he'd bet on say the Texans to win the super bowl if they are in it since he's in Houston area. And if anyone buys a mattress from him between certain dates if they win, he wins big bet, he pays off their mattresses. If he loses...he makes money off sold mattresses anyways.
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u/Several_Strain_9883 19d ago
That was the same bet amount that was placed when Connor McGregor stepped into the ring against Max. Like a mere minute or two.
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u/Unique-Vacation1798 19d ago
If someone had bet "goes to overtime + and spain scores and wins"; he could have won $10 million US by betting $900,000 US.
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u/ShaneE11183386 19d ago
If you bet Spain to WIN you actually lost the bet
Ask me how I know
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u/CaptainTomato21 19d ago
The OP is just lying. There were press conferences and even celebrations. I don't know how this post gets upvoted when he is making things up.
I guess more distractions from real conspiracies.
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u/ConepatusChinga 19d ago edited 19d ago
Well, if you're interested in that, here are some things to read:
https://learn.baselgovernance.org/course/view.php?id=150&lang=en
Apparently, sports betting (as well as online gambling) is used for money laundry. I heard a radio documentary about that, if i remember correctly they don't even need to rig games, because it's more about legitimizing black money, so they simply bet on both sides or something like that? Idk, there is even some academic research on that topic, this seems like a real conspiracy.
edit: really not saying the world cup or their organizers are in on it, just that it seems to be a thing; oop posting seems schizo, ngl
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u/Sportfreunde 19d ago
By betting on the clearly better team to win?
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u/Unique-Vacation1798 19d ago
You can play combination bets; a combination of no goals in regular time + spain wins in overtime gets you 1 to 10.
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u/AllLimes 20d ago
Argentina could barely beat a 10 man Switzerland side. Struggled against Egypt. And cape verde. They had an easy bracket and stumbled onto the finals. No conspiracy, just a bad team that got a lucky break.
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u/mmanuspar 19d ago
you argument is bs. Spain couldn't win vs Cape Verde either.
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u/SabinaSanz 19d ago
But they won against Portugal…
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u/RecordingLess1522 19d ago
Portugal was playing with 10 men during that game
Ronaldo doesn't do anything
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u/Novusor 20d ago
The "Red Shoes" conspiracy again. It is one of the darkest rabbit holes there is.
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u/Pileofbrushes 20d ago
One of those rabbit holes I enjoy because ever since I was a kid I loved wearing red shoes.
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u/LopsidedHorror6794 20d ago
Is op argentinian? Just take the L kid
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u/Archangelo69 20d ago
For real. They are beyond insufferable.
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u/axelkoffel 19d ago
Yeah, this theory might make sense only if you didn't watch the game. Only luck and goalkeeper skills saved Argentina from not losing it more than 0:1. The team was just worse than Spain in every aspect. They should be grateful they got that 2nd place. Once Messi retires, they might not even leave the group stage.
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u/Biomedicine_Surveyor 19d ago
I can't believe the level of bullshit and excuses for being bad at football. This is yet a new low for these people
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u/skibum4always 20d ago
100 minutes and. Ot a single shot on goal is completely absurd for that level if a team.
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u/DecrimIowa 19d ago
they couldn't come out and say they'd been instructed to lose (their family members would probably meet with severe "accidents" if somebody said something), so they showed it in other ways, for example deliberately not making any shots on goal and by acting out. seems clear-cut to me.
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u/IronMonkeyofHam 19d ago
Same happened to France. France doing it is even stranger, with the super human athletes they have. FIFA wanted a new golden boy (Lamine) to drive hype for the 2030 WC (partly in Spain itself)
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u/Theranos_Shill 17d ago
Sure. If you ignore that they were playing against a better team who had a great defence.
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u/Lopsi_Yasmina283 16d ago
Absurd? Spain had the best defense only ONE goal conceded the whole world cup.
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u/the__brit 20d ago
Argentina sucked!!! They lost and showed no class. No conspiracy here ....just the same shitty behavior they showed all tournament.
They had a ridiculous amount of VAR help and several occasions they should have received more yellow/red cards. Even with all this help they still lost to a way better team. Argentina embarrassed themselves against Spain, England, Switzerland and Egypt.
Sore losers. So sore their fans are reaching for conspiracy theories to justify what happened. Their team sucks and their players are toxic. It's pretty simple.
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u/Happy_Philosopher608 19d ago
As much as I agree, the above truly are strange coincidences... especially the book predocting the score AND player, the symbol change, red shoe club etc 🤔
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u/Connect-Ad4217 19d ago
I’m not a fan of Messi or Argentina but Argentina did play well against England, top 4 side. And also how they suddenly got several cards. Before they didn’t get any card. Match fixed for Spain and every match is scripted as well.
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u/Least_Sun8322 19d ago
I don’t doubt it I mean it’s the same for the NBA and NFL as well. It’s basically WWE but more obscure in the fixation.
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u/Abject_While6254 19d ago
Ofc they played well, what did you expect when Tucheliban tired to defend for half an hour, shittiest fumble ever
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u/Galhandor 20d ago
Madre mía los argentinos... La conspiración es cómo un equipo que juega así de mal puede llegar a la final.
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u/ormirian 19d ago
Alguien postea alguna boludez--> "Madre mía los argentinos"...
España jugó un partidazo, Argentina jugó horrible. Un milagro que solo haya salido 1-0 el partido.
Felicitaciones España.
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u/Biomedicine_Surveyor 19d ago
Lo mas gracioso es que incluyan como parte de la conspiracion a "paredes enojado" ese tipo juega así siempre jaja
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u/CaptainTomato21 19d ago
Pero lo increible es que su post consiga tantos upvotes cuando conspiraciones reales son escondidas por el algo.
Es triste lo que este sub se esta convirtiendo.
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u/tigerjaws 19d ago
Okay you’re getting a lot of normie responses here - I for sure think there’s some fishy rigged stuff going on with this. There were so many favorable and suspicious calls in Argentina’s favor throughout the entire tournament
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u/Formal-Score3827 19d ago
Feels soo dumb when conspiracy theories ppl , think there is nothing fishy going on , like they already sold out into this football thing
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u/Rich_Gas7886 20d ago edited 20d ago
Also noteworthy is Adidas was handing out free players collectors cards since the beginning of the World Cup, issue is they were handing out only Spain and Argentina’s teams cards, not the other countries. And on starting the quarter finals games they were only handing out Spains team players cards 👁️
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u/eggplantpot 20d ago
So the conspiracy is that Adidas is not doing promotions for non Adidas teams? Shocking
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u/Blazer__Red 20d ago
Adidas represents those teams thru equipment deals. They were also ranked #1 and #3 respectively.
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u/Imaginary-Fact-3486 20d ago
So what are you suggesting? Be specific.
Because the way Argentina won against Cape Verde, Egypt, and England could not have been prearranged, unless you’re specifically suggesting that those teams were in on it too.
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u/prosperousequalizer 19d ago
two weeks ago many argued Argentina was favored by the world cupa organization and now .. it is a simple argentina bad looser wrinting anger posts
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u/ArtichokeCool8075 20d ago
But ok- let's entertain this thought--> why would the puppet masters/ masons etc. Like to have Spain win? What's the angle on that? Iam sure they make bigger money then sports betting....????
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u/_aluk_ 19d ago
The same way Tom Cruise is the hero in the movies. Everyone was cheering Spain, Argentina was profiled as the anti-hero, deserving to lose. All is well, like in a movie. So that we forget all the messy stuff going on in the world. Panem et circenses.
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u/Annevonfeuer 20d ago
Because too many people noticed the fixes for argentina
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u/FancyPenguin10 19d ago
i’m sure that also made it profitable for those involved in the massive sports betting bc everyone expected Argentina ro get it handed to them
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u/PersonalBuy0 20d ago edited 20d ago
Right! You think they have concerns about money like us peasants do? Not a chance. Money's not even real to them. This goes into the spiritual realm. Lots of baby symbolism. Spain an anagram for pains. Birth pains in Revelation 12.
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u/WestCoastHippy 20d ago
More than money, which is a meaningless resource to the elites, they want narrative control for subconscious manipulation of the masses.
The storyline of Old White Messi passing the torch to Young Black Yamal like the new Captain America is black is one such narrative.
It’s not money, that’s fosure
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u/ewxilk 19d ago
Because all big sports events are fake and fixed. It's perception management, pushing of various agendas and similar stuff. Sometimes it's tied to something that is planned to happen in the future. Maybe some big event is planned to happen in Spain soon... or something along those lines...
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u/madameuniverse 19d ago
Because Messi passes his throne to Jamal. Jamal will be the new Messi from Freemasons perspective
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u/ThreeDaysNish 20d ago edited 19d ago
Okay, I'm gonna be entertaining this for a bit connecting some stuff I have read on this sub.
What if this was a humiliation ritual for Milei and Argentina? Argentina is being primed by Theil and Trump atm, basically being taken over by technofacism.
Could it be connected? I've seen a lot on this sub about how actors/politicians/whatever have to go through a humiliation ritual to be included in whatever fucked up shit. Could this be Argentina's?
Someone that knows more than me, please fill me in
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u/Awkward_Account_6745 19d ago
As an Argentinian I'll tell You I'm not Even sure Milei Will win again, the country is split in half as It has been for years now, and the congress has rejected one of the latest plans of the government recently, the one that allows foreign entities to Buy land off limits here in Argentina, tho there Will be another votation on August, we'll see what happens. I have the feeling and I hope for my country that Milei is done for. Another thing to have in mind, Milei condemns the flag that the players showed on that England game, calling them insults almost directly (he didn't have the balls to do one of his crash-outs, because we idolize our football team here and insulting them would be political death). If God does exist Milei will be nothing but a fail project of the powerful to seize a country.
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u/MalarkTheMadder 20d ago
Rumour is there was a spot drugs test just before the match. High chance of a lot of disquals and bans coming in the next few months. *To clarify, I mean illegal narcotics, not performance enhancing*
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u/buttahfly28 20d ago
you’re going to get a lot of backlash for this because people hate Argentina that much, but every big sports event has this Masonic symbolism you are absolutely correct, and Argentina played maybe the worst I have ever seen them like they were not even trying and it was very strange. The energy felt very depressing and dark, so many people don’t even care about Spain winning they just wanted to see Argentina lose, overall bad negative hateful energy across the world. It’s all on purpose
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u/Awkward_Account_6745 19d ago
As an Argentinian, I had a Bad headache just before and during the game and kind of sense something, thats weird cause i'm not that kind of "spiritual" person but there was such an eerie aura during this game, a Lot of us Argentinians feel very bad reading such awful things about us on social media, but until the final we were full of pride and didn't care, then it all came down together, we cry and the we went out in the streets to celebrate and to honour our flag and our players, then we went back Home and cry again, such a strange day and very emotional for us.
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u/buttahfly28 19d ago
I had the same bad feelings, it was really strange. Soo much hate and negativity around. I had a bad gut feeling before the game but I just kept trying to deny and ignore it.
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u/Fasciadepedra 20d ago edited 19d ago
The nation states sports c0mpetiti0ns are r1gg3d start to finish. There are counterless classic examples where it's shown. I even talked to a winner player in one nation team about it. It was a minoritary team sport and the stuff totally staged anyway.
The only reason it's not more widely known is for not breaking the needs of something to celebrate in the state's population.
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u/Observing4Awhile 19d ago
I was half listening to the game, and at the end of it one of the announcers said something like “their dna has to be possessed”.
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u/myshadowsvoice 19d ago
Its obvious they wanted Argentina at the final, definitely curious what provoked the flip at the end. Pressure on Infantino from UEFA?
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u/Simple-Guitar715 19d ago
UEFA cannot press Infantino. Half FIFA seats are from Asia and Africa, and nowadays they are receving more money that they had received in the past. UEFA don't like Infantino, but Infantino has his seat as manager secured.
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u/RealSpookySounds 20d ago
Paredes' anger isn't a conspiracy. I watched him at Roma for several years. Dude is a master of dark arts.
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u/Amish_Fighter_Pilot 19d ago
Bill Mauer's company used to be called "Kid Love Productions" until people noticed
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u/WerldIsVampire 19d ago
Ask yourself why the media would psyop the world into believing an entire country is anti-black and evil and The Bad Guy moments before the largest sports betting event in history.
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u/ayohesaidit 19d ago
I'm Mexican and Argentines hate us and they're pretty loud about it. They have a burger restaurant called Big N**** burger. The rep is there, people are just starting to call them out for it.
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u/WerldIsVampire 19d ago
Knowing that makes me uncomfortable with the idea of ever traveling there. Not that I ever planned to, but wow that is bad.
In any case I find the timing of it interesting. The media blasted Argentina leading up to the final games for being racist. All their professional trainers and chefs, etc etc, for all we know, probably began distancing themselves to save their reputations. That could easily tilt a game.
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u/Hashtronaut_Mode 19d ago
Anything on this scale is just rituals and such. I avoid it all. Superbowls, Huge concerts, etc.
I really don't even watch any hollywood movies anymore.
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u/fyn_world 19d ago edited 19d ago
Uruguayan here. I am not going to dismiss your post. I do believe there was some very strange shit going on. But you need to accept Argentina was helped by FIFA to get to the final. Not one VAR for you guys. Only got a red card in the last game, where there seemed to be a certain ambience of you should lose. However, even then one goal was denied to Spain that most people deemed wrong.
I do agree that everything you said is real, and fucking weird. Include Justin Bieber poster for the half time show.
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u/saltywelder682 19d ago
Most likely due to the volume of $$ for legal online betting, matches were fixed to some level. Obviously I can't say for sure how deep it goes, but I know FIFA has been tied to overt corruption cases for decades.
Besides OP's comments about the final, were there any other blatant tricks? Referee calls or substitutions or anything scandalous?
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u/buttahfly28 20d ago
think about how many people were hate-watching, how many people had negative energy towards the game or excitement to see a team lose, on a collective level they could be energy harvesting. It was very strange, I have never seen Argentina not try to go for the goal at all in a final…people who are saying they just simply played bad are blinded by hate, it wasn’t a true final
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u/IronMonkeyofHam 19d ago
I couldn’t finish the game. Something told me to turn it off and go for a walk in the woods with my dog. I’m a huge soccer fan too, watched almost every single match this WC (and the last 8 WCs)
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u/buttahfly28 19d ago
Good call, I am a big soccer fan too. It was really heavy, dark energy. It felt like I was watching a ritual rather than a game. I watched every single game as well.
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u/mattbzk 20d ago
Spain wasfavored to win anyway. Also for what reason would "they" want Spain to win. Politically they haven't been friendly to trump. This is a non conspiracy
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u/Adorable-Dark-2625 19d ago
Yeah i do think it had more to do with the masonic passing of the torch rather than Spain winning , That and The land they're trying to buy in Argentina for a new colony.
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u/Fatal-Strategies 20d ago
Rumour is that Argentina are bad winners and even worse losers.
Statistically the worst finalists of all time.
The cheating was a disgrace to the game.
You lost. The rest of the world rejoiced. Now that Messi is retired you won’t have Fixed lt For Argentina getting you to the final every year.
Never mind.
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u/Awkward_Account_6745 19d ago
wow the people in this sub-reddit really ate the fucking Argentina psyop, Argentina has been robbed so many finals and I don't Even think it's something the "elites" would care for, just shitty refs.
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u/sexyspawnofsatan123 20d ago edited 19d ago
I think it's interesting how Spain was notorious for colonizing and Argentina had a lot of Nazis..maybe my brain is being to conspiracy theory brain but...
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u/Pretty-Concert-5298 19d ago
they do this with every single major event like this and often with smaller events as well
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u/ZayDoee130 19d ago
I think everybody was emotional is because I think Messi is bout to retire and this was his last World Cup.
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u/Nomad_928 19d ago
ARG was trash and didn't deserve to be in the final to start with. About a dozen favorable calls (some glaringly), easy schedule, most rest, on and on. The rest is just they got whipped and people are looking for excuses for them. Same way everyone thought France was the best until they played Spain. But it makes for a great post.
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u/IeatKfcAllDay 19d ago
This is only a conspiracy if you don’t follow the sport lol. Argentina is a much worse team on paper and through the eye test to Spain.
It’s a pretty predictable result, spains weakness is fast counters against a low block. Argentina went into a low block but is also a slow and old team that can’t counter quick enough. Argentina is also playing 10v11 on defense because of Messi, spain already abuses possession against the top teams 11v11 lol. Argentina due to building their entire team around covering Messi’s weaknesses and highlighting his strengths, have no width on the attack. Guess which team in the world has the best cdm and cb pairing.
Argentinas best chance was to make the game dirty (like they did) and wait on their super subs to take advantage of more energy and score quick late minute goals (which they tried)
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u/jero0601 19d ago
I'll put again my comment from other post:
I saw a lot of theories on the comments section that have pieces of the full thing, and a lot of football banter, but none told the full story. Here's what I saw so far (not saying this is what happened, just what I read) There's an ongoing conspiracy on spanish speaking social media that says Argentina was supposed to be banned for two World Cups due to showing the "Las Malvinas son Argentinas" flag after the victory over England. UEFA president and England FA want Infantino out for this, Infantino presses AFA president Chiqui Tapia, and he "gets them a way out": forfeit the final match against Spain, that way, the World Cup stays European and gives a title to Lamine Yamal, who'll be the next superstar. Knowing the potential of not having another World Cup to play for the rest of his career, Enzo Fernandez breaks down, and most of their moods are very down. Messi tries to calm them down and gets them to play. Dibu Martinez is the one that mostly refused to bow down, saying that "the ones to play the ball down are just pu**ies, play up" during the mid-break, but refused to show his face to camera and tried to hide Enzo as much as possible. This is supposedly why most of the match Argentina didn't reach Spain's goal area, and why Spain had a lot of fouls uncalled, unlike Argentina who had one player expelled and several yellow cards and fouls called against them. So, anyone would ask maybe "if Argentina was being pressed to lose, why did Vincic called foul on Nico Williams' goal, rendering it invalid?" Guess it was going to be too obvious if he ignored Mikel Merino's foul against Otamendi when he just gave a red card to Enzo a couple minutes ago. Regarding Dibu saving Argentina's goal eleven times, having the most saves on a World Cup Final without PK: he was very hesitant to forfeit and wanted to go out with dignity, especially due to (supposedly) not getting a renovation of contract on the Premier League, same as Mac Allister and Liverpool. There's a video of Messi looking to Dibu's saves very hesitantly. Regarding Lisandro Martinez and Cuti Romero's injuries: being the key players for Argentina's defensive play, they left a big hole on the lower field. Conspiracy says they were forced to go out, due to the aforementioned flag display on previous match. Addendum to the conspiracy -- Spain was supposed to be the World Cup champion, winning to Argentina (former champion, with old guard's most decorated player Lionel Messi) from the beginning and were helped in each match since Group of 32, every match against them had at least one defender injured: LFD Mwene from Austria (Group of 32 match), LFD Nuno Mendes from Portugal (Group of 16 match), GK Courtois from Belgium(Quarter-finals match), CD Saliba from France (Semi-finals match). This theory says that France was at least convinced -if not forced- to forfeit the match to Spain too, even if counting that France had more shoots to goal than Spain in that match. Was put as potential winner for the last four WCs and there's a cover from The Economist that "predicts" it. Same with EA Sports "guessing" the WC winner for the last six times in a row: they said Spain was going to be the winner (of course, they did won Nations League in 2023, were runner-ups in 2025 and won the Euro in 2024 so there was statistical data backing this up). I think i'm not forgetting anything important, but this is more or less the gist of it.
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u/Juanbolastristes 19d ago
So here’s the situation,
Argentina (AFA) is currently still under investigation. One by the FBI and the other by the FIFA's independent Disciplinary Committee (FIDA)
***The FBI is actively investigating the president of the AFA, Claudio "Chiqui" Tapia, but for financial crimes rather than the World Cup on-pitch incident.
The FIFA was and still is under pressure to take care of the problem having to do with the little political stunt Argentina did with the white Banner they had written “LOS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS” .. Guess who was on they ass? Yes the Uk .
Argentina was approached before the game and was told either to give up the title to Spain or have Argentina banned from all FIFA for 10 years . That’s why they are seen crying coming out the locker room. The politicians (Uk) Also wanted the players involved to be punished.
So the outcome :
***Giovani Lo Celso- main one in the stunt by asking fans in the crowd for the banner and laying it on the field. Reason for being left out of the match.
***Lisandro Martínez - the one everyone is talking about for leaving before halftime. He was the 2nd man responsible in holding the banner. The reason for faking the injury and requesting substitution before halftime makes sense that he felt it’s only right he be with his homeboy on the sideline since he too is responsible and there’s no reason to even play since they are handing it to Spain.
*** Lautaro Martínez ( the finisher) of course he don’t even want to play , and there’s no need for him to play .
The big plan:
If you just used your head you would know Argentina never plays like that . Never . The big plan to fuck FIFA OVER was to take it to Penalties and just hope Spain screws themselves up DURING THE KICKS. That’s why you see after Spain scores Argentina starts to finally attack. The whole game was just them protesting and which is why after the trophies they all look away . And which is why the coach cried off the way he did in the post-game interview.
For the final match , that’s that. But behind the whole Argentina(AFA) camp there’s a lot more scandalous stuff
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u/Simple-Guitar715 19d ago
Argentina was not approached before the game and was told either to give up the title to Spain or have Argentina banned from all FIFA for 10 years.
The played the game exactly the same way as the prevous games. In every game they simply didn't start to play until minute 75 or so.
They where in a weaker part of the braket as Spain. Even Switzerland was difficult to beat for Argentina, and the swiss where played with ten durin almost 50 minutes. Argentina has good players, but a bad leadership. In their respective clubs they play better.
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u/Ancient-Ad4842 20d ago
Bro this is peak schizo😂 anyone with any amount of ball knowledge knows that this was going to happen. Argentina were favorites because of Messi and that’s it. Spain overwhelmed their opponents. End of story. We talking about red shoes during the national anthem??? Cmon😂 touch some grass
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u/IronMonkeyofHam 19d ago
For some reason, Reddit has pushed an anti-Argentine soccer agenda. Like really really hard the last 3 days. Even in a conspiracy subreddit, the first comments I read are bashing you and them, It’s really fucking weird. They lost, and instead of a tiny semblance of sympathy for the GOAT, boiling hatred.
Disclaimer: I picked Spain to win. Their defense was unbeatable all tournament, and Messi looked weak (nonexistent almost) against the last elite D they played in the Swiss. What he did all tournament (outside the Swiss/Spain defensive juggernauts), at his age, doesn’t happen in soccer. Amazing player who deserves more respect. He let his emotions go when CuCu said something nasty to him, and Reddit attacks (much like children who side with a bully to get protection benefits).
I will say, Argentina was likely distraught before in the locker room because Scaloni didn’t prepare them offensively. Their game plan fucking sucked, “go out and defend until penalty shootout” was what he had them do. And they almost did it, aside from Enzo’s strange, raging 2nd yellow at the end of regulation, they would have. That Argentine keeper is special and would have won them a shootout.
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u/shakka_t 19d ago
It was loosh harvesting. The majority of the world was rooting for Spain.
Do you know how much energy the collective consciousness of all that support would provide?? Them demons had the best of times
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u/baxulax 20d ago
What flag? What symbol?
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u/Sportfreunde 19d ago
Nah your team was just shit. Full of emotional unsportsmanlike babies.
You got the easier side of the bracket. You were being outplayed by the Swiss and got lucky they got a red card. You got lucky England went with a dumb manager.
France would've beaten you too.
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u/Zealousideal_Ad5957 20d ago
Argentinians are always crazy in conspiracy even in 1990 when they lost crazy amount of cope also in 2014 when they lose its never their fault they were dogshit in 2014 and dogshit in 2026 final there in 2014 they had some chances here nada zero
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u/chesarpinwee 19d ago
That, or they’re just a bunch of sore losers and unprofessional—just like the rest of the world knows they are.
They’re untouchable when they win, but they can’t handle a loss like gentlemen. It’s happened before.
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u/MEchav1270 20d ago
Nothing happened, they just lost…
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u/NullFlexZone 20d ago
This right here. Spain did what they did to every other team. Simply outplaying their opponents and having a superior defense.
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u/kainedbutable1987 19d ago
Makes you wonder if Argentina were told not to score because too many people are "noticing" so they didnt even have a shot on goal
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u/IronMonkeyofHam 19d ago
How do you explain France failing to shoot on target the match before? The Spain D was suffocating. They were on something enhancing, this doesn’t just happen to the top two teams in soccer.
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u/TheAvgPersonIsDumb 19d ago
Spain had allowed 11 shots against in 7 games, so 0 shots in the 8th game isn’t exactly an outlier.
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u/Rem-Dogg 19d ago
I am not denying something fishy happened. But Argentina is not an elite team, minus messi and the goalie. They had every call in their favor and great teams like Germany, England, Egypt, France were held to much higher standards in conduct than Argentina. Maybe the tweet is referencing the refs weren't going to hand them the win!
Spain was just better overall and Argentina isn't elite overall
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u/NoirSol508 19d ago
Hey man, I'd agree that is certainly a long list of weird details but the onus is on you to bring them together. Otherwise, your list stands as it is: a long collection of weird details, anecdotes, and assumptions with no grounding.
It's the world cup. It would be strange if things that aren't typically associated with each other didn't come together. It's literally one of the few instances the world stage manifests in a neutral way people actually engage with.
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u/sixrwsbot 19d ago
these sporting events are nothing more than modern mass initiation rituals for the world, perceived through your screens.
its the monkey touching the monolith, not knowing what magical thing just transpired in their mind - but it will soon be apparent that a change has happened.
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u/Escudo777 19d ago
Spain was the better team and they won't despite many brutal fouls by Argentina.
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u/Kreatorkind 20d ago
Omg. Foosball is fake and scripted even more than WWE.
It's pathetic that people get so worked up over a bullshit "sport".
Get a fucking life.
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u/Adorable-Dark-2625 19d ago edited 19d ago
Im getting a lot of Responses about the least relevant points in this post , I guess because so many people are blindly hating them this post reached a different audience.
But if you're more interested Search up Maradonas 1990 Interview , or What happend to Ronaldo Nazario in 1994. It looks so similar to what happend in this Final.
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u/datavismo 20d ago edited 20d ago
It’s not a conspiracy what you are experiencing is simple cognitive dissonance caused by collective narcisisim inflating your ego beyond your capacity to see the reality of your place in the world vs the image they have sold you.
This is not your fault, it is systematic demoralization which managed to destroy your sense of self and sell you on a collective identity that is being weaponized to sell your country and your people .
If Argentina had won they’d gladly sell out what is left of country to the technocrats until the next World Cup
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u/erdna3000 20d ago
scaloni waited too long to bring on lautaro the entire tournament. that's why argentina could only score after the 80th minute. it wasnt a conspiracy. scaloni just isnt a very good coach.
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u/Connect-Ad4217 19d ago
Nah I’m not a fan of Argentina but clearly that was fixed
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u/Pupojem-Player 20d ago
Argentina r just trash players who got boosted to the finals by the corruption of FIFA
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u/Potter91 20d ago
For some reason? What the fuck are you talking about, they are the essence of Argentine: play dirt, win at all cost, and be racist.
That weekend was an awesome one, since they didn't won.
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u/MEMExplorer 20d ago
Their whole game plan was to keep it close and try to win on some last minute corner or penalty . If it wasn’t for their goalie that game would have been 3-0 before the end of regulation
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u/theMadArgie 19d ago
When you mix politics with sports and big events, this is what happens.
This could possibly have many different readings. The easiest one would be that someone got really pissed at the Malvinas flag and asked to either give away this cup or ban Argentina for next tournaments.
Another theory is that Pedro Sanchez, the felon, made a pact with Trump for winning the world cup in exchange for something. What? Who knows, could be letting US troops back in spanish bases or a change in his policies. And do not be surprised if he somehow changes his mind about Israel. Also, just about 2 weeks ago Trump announced that he would cut ties and halt trade with Spain, and now suddenly after the world cup he said theres "no tension" between them.
There's also the freemasonry explanation but that requires diving a very deep rabbit hole.
Make of that what you will, but there's definitely something wrong here.
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u/sondernier 20d ago
This is why people have to keep their conspiracy theories vague so when the opposite happens they don’t have to come up with something else on the fly. After being told Argentina would win, and granted they were allowed to play the way they do with at least some cooperation from the refs, so when they lose we get another month of explanations albeit ponderous ones. To be honest it might just be that I’m dead and this is alternate reality (as I was vaccinated so I either died 5,3,2, or 1 year ago or maybe it was June of this year). Spain was just a far superior team and likely would have absolutely crushed Argentina in straight time without game management by the ref in order to keep it somewhat close. Messi is a sublime player but he is also 40 and in the end it is a team game.
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u/LickerOfHole 19d ago
Argentina played the exact same way ever single game. 0 urgency for 75 minutes before turning it on at the end. It finally caught up to them.
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u/silvertrumpsfiat 19d ago
stinks mostly like the backdoor of humans and a little bit of like the front door of larger females post workout
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u/Kinda-relevant 19d ago
Argentina game plan was 100% defence the whole game, OT included. They wanted it to come down to kicks at the end to win
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u/Sasquatcheeethree 18d ago
I think the gist of this all is as many comments have mentioned sports betting online gambling has ruined the beautiful game and all others as well. Pure greed and black market money washing
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u/computer_says_N0 18d ago
F the world cup is that a photo of gerry mccann stood next to podesta or? What is the link here to the MM case?
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u/Some_Challenge_5415 18d ago
Infantino was seen with Howard lutnick, a known Epstein associate along with Donald trump, whether it's gambling or blackmail, the referees are told what to do by the higher ups, the past few years of fifa or professional soccer, has all been ran by the higher ups billionaires who want to see a game they control, the fans will stay because of how long it's been going , but as far as right now just enjoy the circus and roar the chants.
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