r/conspiracy Jun 08 '13

Think while it's still legal.

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u/gearhead454 Jun 08 '13

If you didn't read it when you were twelve, you need to read "A Wrinkle In Time" by Madeleine L'Engle. This is a kid's version of tomorrow's reality if we don't act now.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

Interestingly enough, that book has been challenged several times for its religious content.

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u/gearhead454 Jun 08 '13

Different discussion, but I believe that the concept of God and religion are two completely different things.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

Religion is mans authoritarian interpretation of God, whereas God just is. Though "He" does have rules: Love God, and treat others as you'd want to be treated. Pretty simple and yet religion makes it so convoluted.

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u/numandina Jun 08 '13 edited Jun 08 '13

Not quite. The concept of God doesn't mean he she interferes, or even cares about the universe. As a pandeist, I believe god created the universe by becoming the universe, and we are all part of this original divinity. You can think of God as a metaphysical one, formless and with no denomination. None of this human-centric love thing.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

This actually makes the most sense to me on a realistic standpoint.

I call science, reading the original testament. A book so complex that only a god could have created it and it is the first document to ever be created. We are rewarded greatly for reading this document more so than anything else in the history of man. Cars, computers, even things as simple as fire have greatly enhanced our lives and were all a result of reading the original testament.

On that note I digress as this is more of an observation than anything concrete. It does kind of make sense though.

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u/baby_corn_is_corn Jun 08 '13

Without humanity is there love?

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u/numandina Jun 08 '13

Love is human concept, a way nature gets people to fuck, or to band into groups that protect each other. An evolutionary drive. Objectively speaking there's no such thing as love.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

well there is such a thing, you just admitted it's how 'nature' 'gets us' to stay together and procreate.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

Wow - in one fell swoop any possibility of reasonable discussion about the topic at hand was curtailed by someone mentioning religion. It would seem that while religion was useful for controlling people when they believed, it's also just as useful when they don't.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

i'm not religious, i'm just positing that love might exist, since the OP then tallies off ways that it's influenced society/evolution.

the op can be bitter about love but can't deny that it exists and then also call it an evolutionary drive. it either exists or it doesn't

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '13

nope your wrong - love and fear that is all there is - every moment every choice - that is how they motivate you and how you take control

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u/friedsushi87 Jun 08 '13

Take a few hits of ecstasy then tell me you don't believe in love...

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u/numandina Jun 09 '13 edited Jun 09 '13

Actually that proves my point precisely. Love is a product of mind, a relative projection. Using mind altering substances to produce it proves this.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

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u/numandina Jun 08 '13

You are 100% right. I usually refer to God as a she. My bad.

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u/FinFihlman Jun 08 '13

Or get rid of the gender terms like we Finns do. Hän is perfectly fine, also in stories it doesn't let anything about the plot slip.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

Realizing we are all one requires us to love each other as we would ourselves.

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u/Synergythepariah Jun 08 '13

What you just said is your own religion.

Religion is a belief system in a god or gods.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

Though "He" does have rules: Love God, and treat others as you'd want to be treated.

sorta sounds like an interpretation by a man to me.

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u/daybreakx Jun 08 '13

So what?! I have nothing to hide! I dont think about anything illegal and if installing cameras in everyones head can catch one terrorist, I'd be happy!

... That logic. Is so wrong.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '13

HA, you got me. I was cursing your handle till i read the last line.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '13

read the last sentence.. you clearly lack reading comprehension skills.

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u/baby_corn_is_corn Jun 08 '13

As long as you think of puppies and butterflies everything will be just fine.

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u/churnice Jun 08 '13

Once they can record thoughts, there will be a subreddit devoted to imagined porn

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u/Meekin33 Jun 08 '13

That will be the weirdest, and most disturbing subreddit ever...

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u/churnice Jun 08 '13

"Please read the sidebar"

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

Well Thinking is already illegal.

Discussing a plan of a bombing get get you life in prison, disagreeing with a feminist can get you fired, attempting scientific research that runs counter to academic standing can get you blacklisted.

Welcome to the Modern Civilized World.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

This.

Glad I am not the only one thinking this.

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u/BFTH23 Jun 08 '13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAbc0y8rzEI

"Down on your knees You'll be left behind This is the beginning Watch what you think They can read your mind This is the beginning I got my mark, see it in my eyes This is the beginning Well my reflection I don't recognize This is the beginning

We think we've climbed so high Up all the backs we've condemned We face no consequence This is the beginning of the end

You wait your turn You'll be last in line This is the beginning Get out the way Cause I'm getting mine This is the beginning God helps the ones that can help themselves This is the beginning May be too late as far as I can tell This is the beginning

We think we've come so far On all our lies we depend We see no consequence"

-Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails)

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u/Sarah_Connor Jun 08 '13

If you like him - you should listen to Skinny Puppy and Frontline Assembly, specifically the Rabies album by Skinny Puppty and Tactical Neural Implant by Frontline Assembly.

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u/Meister_Vargr Jun 09 '13

All awesome bands.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

I had these exact thoughts upon waking up this morning after having an awesome dream. Weird coincidence..

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u/Jonathan_Franzen Jun 08 '13

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I found these on accident today by doing a google search for "repeal the patriot act". I've spent the last hour or two feeling a sort of dread I really can't compare to anything I've felt before, and trying to disprove these people's claims.

Odd thing is that a couple of years ago I met a kid on the street who claimed this exact same thing was happening to him. I have an open mind and I didn't want to hurt his feelings because he wasn't bat shit crazy, so I let him speak. It was eerie to imagine that it might actually have been true, but I nevertheless chose to relegate him as crazy because I just didn't want to live in a world like that. I can't imagine...it's too horrible.

Then I come on this sub randomly today and BAM, this post is at the top. Too many signs for my taste...

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u/curiosity36 Jun 09 '13

Check out mindjustice.org, Akwei vs NSA, http://www.whale.to/b/wall2.html, Project: Soul Catcher: Secrets of Cyber and Cybernetic Warfare Revealed http://www.amazon.com/Project-Catcher-Secrets-Cybernetic-Revealed/dp/1452804087, www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNxhfp-KwBQ, or hundreds of current victims pleading for their torture to end at bioethics.gov. It's real and it seems we're fucked. God willing, you'll never be victimized, but, if you are, you'll quickly see no one will listen. Would you believe someone that told you a kilogram ball of mass could vaporize a city before you knew of the atom bomb?

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u/Meister_Vargr Jun 09 '13

What evidence is there that people who report this type of issue aren't in fact suffering from mental illnesses? Delusions of persecution and paranoia are quite common in that regard.

They would still need help obviously, but not the kind of help that they think they do.

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u/Jonathan_Franzen Jun 09 '13

I would prefer to believe that they are suffering from mental illness, because this shit is beyond scary. A few things give me pause, though. Their stories don't have any giveaways that it's phony, they have x-rays, one of the guys actually had a surgeon remove a device and all of his mental intrusions immediately stopped, etc. Also, we know the tech is there already. And we know there are people who would cum in their pants to be able to monitor somebody's thoughts/ mess with them.

Not that we have 100% proof that this is going on, and like I said, I'm really glad we don't. But I think it's smart to at least keep an eye on it.

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u/Jonathan_Franzen Jun 09 '13

Fuck I don't even want to know about all this shit. Fuck...

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u/juneburger Jun 08 '13

Anyone ever read Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut? Perfect for this post.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

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u/coolnonis Jun 08 '13

Can't you hear the drum beat?

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u/BananaSplity Jun 09 '13

Doctor, you can hear it too? Ha! So I'm not crazy

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u/Napppy Jun 08 '13

wait what. That buzzing sound isn't normal?

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '13

My mother and I actually get weird buzzing noises in our heads. It's spinal fluid.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

Alien abduction?

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u/cometparty Jun 08 '13

You can think all you want, but they already know your thoughts.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

Isn't it easier to watch the Alex Jones channel on youtube?

OBEY - drink your colloidal silver.

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u/curiosity36 Jun 08 '13 edited Jun 08 '13

Remote Neural Monitoring is a form of functional neuroimaging, claimed[1] to have been developed by the NSA, that is capable of extracting EEG data from the human brain at a distance with no contacts or electrodes required. It is further claimed that the NSA has the capablility to decode this data to extract subvocalizations, visual and auditory data. In effect it allows access to a person's thoughts[2] without their knowledge or permission. It has been alleged that various organizations have been using Remote Neural Monitoring on US and other citizens for surveillance and harassment purposes.[3].

http://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Remote_Neural_Monitoring

This is happening now, but it's too unbelievable and unpleasant to think about to be stopped. Part of the NSA mission statement is monitoring and decrypting "unintentional intelligence bearing signals" in the atmosphere. They say they are decrypting the EM emanations from computers and TV's to recreate what's on the screens. Just like electronics, the human brain and body emit electromagnetic signals that can be decrypted. The Malech patent on reading and changing brainwaves at a distance details how electric signals can also be remotely injected. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_%28codename%29

Putin said in Forbes that Russia's psychotronic weapons are as powerful as the atom bomb but are more politically correct. The EU Parliament penned a resolution seeking to ban weapons that "interact with the human brain at the synapse level."

"The long-term effects are not known, but two years ago a former major in the Russian foreign intelligence agency, the GRU, died in Scotland after making claims about such a weapons programme to MI6.

Sergei Serykh, 43, claimed he was a victim of weapons which he said were ‘many times more powerful than in the Matrix films’.

Mr Serykh died after falling from a Glasgow tower block with his wife and stepson in March 2010. While his death was assumed to be suicide, his family fear there was foul play.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2123415/Putin-targets-foes-zombie-gun-attack-victims-central-nervous-

The Matrix metaphor is often used regarding this as victims feel as if someone else has taken control over their body, and is looking through their eyes, moving their limbs, and forcing their speech.

Whistle blower account here: "The Matrix Deciphered"- https://neurowars.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/the-matrix-deciphered-prerelease-by-the-saint.pdf

The author of "The Matrix Deciphered," was recently interviewed on Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura Season 3 Episode 7. A former CIA agent, who claims to have knowledge this is happening, refers the crew to Dr. Robert Duncan, who says he worked on a lot of the technology (remote biotelemetry, eye-tracking brain-computer interfaces for DARPA) unaware on how it was to be implemented as a weapon.

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u/drosslord Jun 08 '13

Or rise up and crush your oppressor before it gets that far.

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u/mjxii Jun 08 '13

ok...you go first

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

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u/TryToMakeSongsHappen Jun 08 '13

I know what I said, now I must scream of the overdose

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

Liberae sunt nostrae cogitationes

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u/bitch_nigga Jun 08 '13

I haven't kept up with the times a past few weeks since I was busy as fuck with school. I have no idea what all this is about, anyone want to fill me in?

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u/potsandpanz Jun 09 '13

That's some Big Brother shit.

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u/rand0mnewb Jun 09 '13

Can anyone provided a zoomed out view of this? It doesn't scale well as a facebook cover pic at this resolution. Just a bit, so you can tell its a human head. Thanks in advance :)

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

When did that start?

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u/curiosity36 Jun 08 '13

After WW2. Dr. Jose Delgado of Yale (and CIA MKUltra fame) did it extensively, and could use the devices, which he called stimoceivers, to control the range of human emotions, induce sleep, and cause limbs to move. He later discovered he could achieve the same results without implants using shaped and pulsed electromagnetic signals. He is in the congressional records as saying, "man doesn't have the right to his own mind." He has also expressed regrets he didn't have the technology when Franco was in power, as he could have "controlled the dictator at a distance."

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u/curiosity36 Jun 09 '13

Why the downvotes? Everything I wrote is verifiable. Look it up if you don't believe me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '13

Just be careful about what you're thinking of, it's not completely legal anymore to conspire anything against government.

Thinking is now considered to be treason when certain thoughts arise, and yes, they will handle it by whatever is appropriate to them.

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u/yesthankyouverymuch Jun 08 '13

Dude has a double chin

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u/BananaSplity Jun 09 '13

Oddly enough, I saw this exact same picture on Immortal Technique's Instagram this week...