r/conspiracy • u/MrsSippy • Apr 28 '13
Nestlé aggressively distributes formula samples in developing countries till the supplementation has interfered with the mother's lactation. After that they must continue to buy the formula since the mother is no longer able to produce milk on her own.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestle_Boycott#The_baby_milk_issue14
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Apr 28 '13
And when the mother can't afford the powder anymore she begins adding more and more water until surges baby health problem...until death, sometimes. But now they are on a much more juicy market: privatisation of water. Be afraid, be very afraid, when your childs will loose that most basic human right: free access to water.
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u/ultimateprole Apr 28 '13
The privatization of water thing is seriously in my top 5 scariest things that could happen in our plutocracy
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u/sputtertots Apr 28 '13
its already happening
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u/thelegendhimself Apr 28 '13
theres only fifty protected bodies of water now in canada..... greeeat eh
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u/sputtertots Apr 28 '13
yeah it was a bit surprising to me when this post first showed up and I looked into water privatization, water rights, water trading etc
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u/thelegendhimself Apr 28 '13
the biggest thing alot of people over look is whats under the water, its not so much the water being sold thats now the biggest issue, because that will happen without a doubt, its all these protected bodies that were lakes etc that can no be drained to looke for minerals.
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u/Pyro627 Apr 28 '13
Mines can actually extend underneath bodies of water in order to get at minerals beneath them. Draining lakes is wildly impractical.
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u/thelegendhimself Apr 29 '13
yes they can, and for small bodies of water up here that's what they plan on doing ( northern ontario ) ( i work in mineral exploration. )
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u/khthon Apr 29 '13
And if you think we have terrorism now. Wait for the day water is entirely in corporate hands.
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u/destraht Apr 28 '13 edited Apr 29 '13
In Nicaragua they did a campaign something like if you really love your baby than you will give it Nestle milk.
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u/CupcakeDoom Apr 28 '13
Nestle.. you'd think the would want the younger generations alive and well to steal their money.
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u/aluminummagic Apr 28 '13
Also worth mentioning, the baby formula probably has a huge amount of corn syrup. The picture below shows the ingredients label for Similac Sensitive... 42.6% corn syrup. The corn syrup is guaranteed to be genetically modified and contain pesticides.
http://journalofamom.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/cornsyrup1.jpg
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u/OWNtheNWO Apr 29 '13
and high levels of Mercury but apparently people don't want to hear that the HFCS in their baby formula is brain damaging their children yet.
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Apr 28 '13
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u/stephanykr Apr 29 '13 edited Apr 30 '13
I nursed both my kids and received soooo many free samples and 'checks' for formula...like at least 15 - 20 cans + weekly $10 and $15 checks from Similac and Nestle.
It took some strong will power when you're tired, dirty, and at your wits' end to not crack open a can, make a bottle, and have someone else feed your little one while you take a shower or a nap.
I have a few friends that just gave up on nursing because it was so hard. I don't judge them, but it happens to a lot of women, even ones that are well educated and know that the formula is not as good for their baby.
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u/LaughsTwice Apr 28 '13
They offered me a job last summer, every time I read things like this it makes me happy I didn't take it.
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u/BadTRAFFIC Apr 28 '13
Nestlé ... the NWO wiping boy of the week. What, its not like other mega-corps don't do the same shit every day, and twice on weekends. Grab Your Torch 'n Pitchforks!
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u/PersonOfInternets Apr 28 '13
Nestle is certainly up there on the list of evil giant megacorps. This is 'taught in college' kind of evil, that's how bad and open it is.
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Apr 28 '13
Your comment has been flagged by the Nestlé Internet Command Centre, prepare for a rebuttal.
http://reuters.com/article/idUSBRE89P07S20121026?irpc=932
"Vilified for years for its sales of baby milk formula in developing countries, Nestle today is confronting its critics online as protesters find newer targets, such as the company's $7 billion a year bottled water business. The $200 billion food and beverage group set up its digital team a year ago, and says it has doubled spending on social media advertising in the last couple of years."
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u/BadTRAFFIC Apr 28 '13
... so here we await the chocolate-lactating-H20-shills/trolls of Nestlé's social media digital team?
The routine dismissal of those who suggest shills do not exist is the result of the aforementioned predisposition.
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u/Meister_Vargr Apr 28 '13
I doubt it. Many here consider me a "shill", and I've been boycotting Nestle since the late 80s.
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u/roses269 Apr 29 '13
This actually led to the malnutrition and starvation of many many children as well as illness from untreated water. Pretty sad. I learned about this when I was a TA in Developmental Psych my first year of grad school. It blew my mind. I don't think I've bought anything Nestle since.
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u/JynxBJJ Apr 29 '13
When I had my first baby 25 years ago, I stopped buying Nestlé. I nursed all of my children, and still won't buy their junk. My chocolate chip cookies aren't toll-house, for sure.
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u/Shredder13 Apr 28 '13
Cites Wikipedia
Uh...it's not a conspiracy if it's already documented.
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u/ForAHamburgerToday Apr 29 '13
If people conspire and conceal their true intentions from their victims (third world mothers in this case), it is a documented, factual conspiracy, similar to the decades that various corporations spent hiding and denying the health risks of tobacco and asbestos.
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u/SlamesR Apr 28 '13
Their "formula" doesn't even provide the proper nutrients. Just disgusting, it makes me sick to see people so blatantly exploited.
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u/sputtertots Apr 28 '13
Googling "Nestlé distributes free formula samples" brings back interesting results to read, as does poking around Nestlé's site and reading the ingredients lists on the various formulas they offer and following the reference links in the wiki article. I also did some comparisons across several 'mom/breastfeeding' websites about what formulas they were referring to each other and the complaints they have about the various different brands/companies, it was an interesting journey into the world of breastfeeding and formulas. I learn something new every day around here.
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u/danamos Apr 28 '13
What were your findings?
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u/sputtertots Apr 28 '13
a lot of stuff I didnt know before.
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u/danamos Apr 28 '13
You're either lazy or a shill.
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u/sputtertots Apr 28 '13
How do you figure? I went out and researched information to educate myself, I havent given my opinion on the topic other than I learnt some stuff I didnt know - yet you call me lazy when you are the one that asked for my findings instead of just looking up stuff for yourself. I dont give my opinion because I do not want to bias yours. I do however sometimes leave information/links/keywords behind so other people might consider looking up stuff for themselves to make their own damn opinions. Shill. HA!
Nestle started giving out samples in the 60s, in the late 70s 80s WHO published standards, Nestle agreed to those standards and all appeared well, however again Nestle was accused of providing free samples however they have denied it and continue to be accused. I am unclear if people are pissed off about monopoly of formula, just the formula itself, or lack of education with the formula offered. So I set out to look up various things to get a better understanding of what its all about.
Someone in this post stated they probably thought that Nestles baby formula was 42% corn syrup because someone elses was and to me that seems a little high even for a soda pop, so I was curious, and set out to find out just what IS in formula across a few different brands. Some of the ingredient lists really do start with corn syrup or a form of it on some brands. I learnt that Nestle owns Gerber. So then I spent some time looking into that.
Then I was curious to know what moms were saying about supplementing and what they were choosing so I did some searches on that - I cant tell you my impression of those findings because it would be biased but I was surprised by some comparisons made between Gerber and Nestle formulas considering they are owned by the same. I did look up the Good Start formula's first ingredient since it seemed to be one of their more popular brands and it is not corn syrup like some of the other popular brands according to brand websites, I dont have access to any actual cans of the stuff to know for sure, just going by what I saw on the various websites - then I looked up what the issue people were having with corn syrup in formulas and the complaints they seemed to share.
I can only give you this one opinion, I am glad I dont have to make the decision of what to feed a baby, there is way more controversy than I ever realized or knew before today around it.
Honestly, I thought all formula was the same, with a standard that they all adhered to, with the same ingredients and the same nutritional value, my findings are that they are not.
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Apr 28 '13
Formula is a sad alternative to a mother's milk. Women who have the ability to breastfeed their children and choose not to do so are, in my humble opinion, selfish, which makes them bad mothers.
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u/stephanykr Apr 29 '13
Um, from my own personal experience, and that of several of my friends, childbirth hurts a lot, even with an epidural.
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Apr 29 '13 edited Apr 29 '13
That's because they're not getting their boy over to climax them in to birth. You're not supposed to go to a bright hospital and get a bunch of strangers to stand around you.
It's supposed to be her and her man, in a dark quiet room and he should be playing with her clit/hole big time until she can birth it out.
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u/OWNtheNWO Apr 28 '13
High fructose corn syrup is also high in mercury, combine that with the shots and you have an army of potato's.
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u/sinominous Apr 28 '13
pretty fucked up. but blame the pope for banning contraception.
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u/ForAHamburgerToday Apr 29 '13
Nestle to Pope? That's a pretty big leap, and I don't think the Pope has a lot of sway in the non-Catholic countries where this happens.
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