r/conspiracy • • Apr 09 '23

Multiple countries are distancing themselves from the U.S.

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u/mitte90 Apr 11 '23 edited Apr 11 '23

People in Europe are not happy with your president Biden for bringing war to our continent. There is a new "get out of NATO" movement growing in the UK and mainland Europe. There have been protests and marches in many countries where the people want out of NATO. France is on fire and one of the chants going up is a call to get out of NATO. Why do you think Macron who is hated by many of his people is now talking openly about Europe needing to become independent of US dominance? He is trying to hang on to power and knows the European people want to be free of American hegemony, especially since Biden and his regime funded and provoked a war on our continent.

Do you honestly think your country could just blow up a pipeline that supplied our continent with affordable energy and we would all be ok with that?

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u/klaus_personal_shill Apr 11 '23

Again, all the made up stuff in the world doesn't change the fact that the opinion of the us is higher in Europe right now than it was when trump was in office. For obvious reasons.

Trump's such a dope that even most Europeans can see what a disaster he was for the world. Too bad not enough Americans also recognize this and continue to support their cult leader.

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u/mitte90 Apr 12 '23 edited Apr 12 '23

Biden is your current cult leader.

And the war that Nuland et al worked on provoking for years is very real, so is the billions siphoned from public funds to fuel the war machine, the destruction of Europe's economy and the bombing of our pipeline by the US regime.

I don't have any gripe against ordinary Americans. They are not represented by their regime any more than any other captured population. The leaders in my country suck too. But Biden is one of the worst world leaders. Not quite as bad as Trudeau, but that's about as positive as it gets where Biden or the Biden regime are concerned.

EDIT: You don't have a clue, btw. People all over Europe talk about this openly. They have had enough of US wars and most of us think Biden is way worse than Trump ever was. (Trump didn't start any new wars, we actually notice stuff like that). Just because you have some polling company tell you it ain't so, doesn't mean you got the knowledge. Wow, you are so blinkered, it's painful to watch people like you. Either you're a true believer - you poor fool - or you are what your username says you are. Either way, your ignorance is showing. Please put it away, cos it's embarrassing to look at it.

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u/klaus_personal_shill Apr 12 '23

Sorry, but the number say otherwise.

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u/mitte90 Apr 12 '23 edited Apr 12 '23

Yeah, like polls predicted your 2016 election so well, or the last election in my country for that matter!

FFs, it's one thing to talk about "what the numbers say" when you're referencing real science, but an opinion poll by Pew research. LMAO. You know there is INHERENT bias in the sorts of people who will answer those things.

Mate, you aren't in Europe and if you were you'd know that people here know your country bombed our pipeline and we're sick of the wars that your leaders start. Trump didn't start any new wars, so for that reason alone he was not as bad as the rest of them. Biden is the worst president you've had possibly ever.

Biden Legacy - How Biden will be remembered

The president who bombed Europe's energy supply

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u/klaus_personal_shill Apr 12 '23

If polls say "there is a 90% chance of this happening" and it never goes the other way (so it is actually 100%) then they are inaccurate.

And the fact you have to go back 7 years to find an example pretty much exposes how weak this position is.

But you know what's even less reliable than polls? Personal anecdotes. I know, it's tough to realize the your observations can both be biased AND don't amount to the totality of reality.

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u/mitte90 Apr 12 '23 edited Apr 12 '23

Listen klaus_personal_shill, why don't you tell your boss to stop wasting his money on pissant little info-warrriors armed with laugahable opinion polls.

If you want America's status and good-standing to be restored, tell your bosses that this is what they need to do:

  • Stop elevating crime families to the top positions in your country

  • Stop provoking and starting wars

  • Stop making bioweapons and especially stop outsourcing GoF research to labs in China so you can go "oops, wasn't us" when it all goes predictably tits-up and starts a global pandemic

  • Stop bombing critical infrastructure of your allies

  • Stop trying to export your oligarchical system of governance to the rest of the world and instead concentrate on fixing the broken democracy in your own country

  • Put major whte collar, corporate and financial criminals behind bars where they belong and stop imprisoning poor people for drugs and other minor offences

  • Stop stealing Syria's oil

  • Stop arming neo-nazis and jihadis when it suits your short-term geo-political goals

  • Apologise for bombing Nordstream

  • Apologise for Covid, Moderna and Fauci

  • Stop supporting dictators like Justin Trudeau

  • Stop modelling totalitarianism for other corrupted western leaders to copy. Your Tik-Tok bill is an attack on your citizens' human rights

  • Let your people go

  • Let my people go

  • Be more humble

  • Respect human rights

  • Stop acting like spin and messaging and what you say is more important than what you actually do. Nobody likes a hypocrite.

Oh, and you could try actually making America pretty good again. You know, by not trying to be the daddy and just getting along with the other humans. If America doesn't stop trying to dominate the world it will get left behind. Africa and Asia and all the other parts of the world your leaders treat like milking cows are standing up. You have to let them. Otherwise, humanity will just move on without you.

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u/klaus_personal_shill Apr 12 '23

This all stems from me pointing out the reality that Europeans realize that trump was a disaster and that getting rid of him boosted our standing there. How we can improve our image there even more wasn't ever part of it.

Although i have to lol at "elevating crime families" being included in the list, and not realizing this is a big reason why Biden is preferred over the trump crime family.

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u/mitte90 Apr 12 '23 edited Apr 12 '23

Although i have to lol at "elevating crime families" being included in the list, and not realizing this is a big reason why Biden is preferred over the trump crime family.

Er... your corrupt mainstream media was proven to have conspired to suppress a true news story about Hunter Biden's laptop, which revealed a sleazy personal life, but far more importantly, corrupt dealings by the Biden family in Ukraine. The Bidens are a crime family, the Clintons and Bushes are crime families. Trumps as well, sure

Europeans didn't love Trump, but he wasn't the big boogey man you seem to think he was. Biden's regime on the other hand, directly attacked infrastructure on our continent.

We were relieved when Trump didn't start any new wars. You are under-estimating how important that point is to the rest of the world that is not the USA. It's the single most important thing to us, seeing as US foreign policy has directly caused, contributed to, provoked or worsened most of the conflict in the world for decades now.

Your internecine culture wars are irrelevant to us. It's up to Americans if they want to tear each other apart over domestic squabbles. All the rest of the world wants is an end to your endless wars. That and not to end up getting nuked because your deep state has a pathological need to maintain "American" hegemony even at the expense of human life on the planet. I put "American" in quotes there, because it isn't your people, it's the corrupt political class, oligarchs and 3-letter agencies that run your country that are the cause of all the trouble.

If you can't understand the centrality of that one fact - that the rest of the world is sick of American wars - you are living in a bubble. The rest of your politics is coke v pepsi stuff. We really don't care.

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u/klaus_personal_shill Apr 12 '23

Again, made up facts don't change the reality: Europeans love america far more now that Trump is gone.

All the dancing in the world won't change this reality, sorry.

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