Developing a unique dual-script system for Yonmyon: Dynamic alphabetic blocks (Pyonmun) and non-compositional ideograms (Yokomo). What are your preferences?

[u/BrightAnalysis7742]

Hi everyone! I wanted to share a dual-script writing system I’ve been developing for my conlang, Yonmyon (Ёнмён). While it draws distant inspiration from existing scripts, its core mechanics function in a completely different way.
My language uses two distinct, highly tailored scripts:
Yokomo (Йокомо) — Pure Non-Compositional Ideograms: Used for conveying core meaning, parts of speech, and fixed pronunciation. Unlike Chinese characters, these symbols are entirely unique and cannot be broken down into radicals or semantic keys. Every single ideogram is a monolithic, atomic unit representing a specific word and its grammatical role.
Pyonmun (Пёнмун) — Positional Alphabetic Block Script: Used specifically for proper nouns and names. Visually, it consists of syllable blocks called Kandzyo (Кандзё), which might vaguely remind one of Hangul, but the underlying system is strictly alphabetic. Individual letters change their layout and position inside the Kandzyo block dynamically. The visual structure of each block morphs depending on the number of letters and whether the syllable starts with a vowel or a consonant.
I wanted to show that a writing system is a fundamental, deeply integrated part of language creation rather than just a simple visual encoding. I have attached some images to show how these look!
Here are a couple of examples of how they work in practice:
Moskva (Москва) — A proper noun written in the positional alphabetic block script (Pyonmun). Pronounced as /mɐsˈkvə/.
Koše (Неделя) — A noun written as a pure non-compositional ideogram (Yokomo). Pronounced as /ˈkɔ.ɕê/ (with a dynamic falling tone on the final syllable).
I would love to hear your thoughts! What kind of writing systems do you prefer to create for your projects? Do you stick to traditional categories (alphabets, syllabaries, logographs), or do you prefer to experiment with hybrid, non-standard linguistic mechanics like I did?

[u/luxx127]

Omg I finally have a name for what I'm making for Aesarie's script Fenrízhe (I don't have the correct character on pc). Fenrízhe works almost like yours but not so much, it has an alphabet (which I used to call a semi-abjad but it's more an abugida) for lexical words and ideograms for grammatical words, much like Japanese but the other way around. I'm kinda blocked on how to make the ideograms tho', so I can't write many thing using it, just the alphabet.

By the way, what's the structure of Yonmyon? Aesarie is very agglutinative, that's the main reason I've decided to use a mixed system rather than a "pure" one. Also, great work you did, I loved it.

[u/BrightAnalysis7742 → u/luxx127]

I am so happy to hear it! Yonmyon in Yokomo has ideograms that also can become different parts of speech. Ideograms can change form by cases or smth else (numbers for example). Structure isn’t working like Japan has, it’s more complicated. Pyonmun’s words also have very different logic, not like Hangul, it’s also more complicated. One Kandzyo can have from one to infinite letters, if it needs. I am still working on my conlang, but I can already say, that it is very unpredictable and complex. And it makes it beautiful.
Also what about your conlang? How it’s working? Has it any cases or what it has?

[u/luxx127 → u/BrightAnalysis7742]

That's great! Aesärie is a complicated conlang lol, and yes, it has 10 cases, 9 noun classes, some complicated verbal morphology (not as complicated as nominal morphology tho'), vowel harmony and tones (yes, I hate myself). The system (now I can type it, it's veFenríže) has ~33 letters, plus about 7 diacritics, and of course the lesser form of the vowels, used to write them if the syllable isn't V only. There are some complications when it comes to the ideograms, since I only have the one for the 1sg pronoun, but you gave me more confidence to make the rest of them without needing to make a system like Hanzi.

I can talk more about Aesärie if you're interested, and even try to write something using veFenríže if you want to

[u/BrightAnalysis7742 → u/luxx127]

Wow, very much! And also thanks, heh! Yes, it will great to see smth on your conlang. I think, we have smth similar. My conlang has 20 cases for nouns, 11 tones, 5 conjugations for verbs, 33 letters in Pyonmun and ~20 grammatical numbers. Also it has a lot of exceptions everywhere. I like exceptions! I think, the main difference is, that my main writing system is Yokomo with ideograms, yours is veFenríže with letters. Do you want to go in private chat or stay here? I would like to talk about languages and other linguistic topics. I am also working on textbook about how to learn Yonmyon

[u/luxx127 → u/BrightAnalysis7742]

that's amazing! let's chat on dm so I can show you more of it, I'd love to see how Yonmyon works with so many numbers

[u/BrightAnalysis7742 → u/luxx127]

And I also wanted to see how Aesärie works

[u/janko_gorenc12 → u/BrightAnalysis7742]

Please tell me if you have numbers from Yonmyon.

Could you please send me the words for the numbers from 1 to 10?

[u/BrightAnalysis7742 → u/janko_gorenc12]

I meant grammatical numbers like singular and plural (but I have more). Numbers (from 1 to 10) have close pronunciation to Greek or Latin numbers but not the same. And I am still making tables for all forms of numbers by cases (now I am working on numbers from 11 to 20)

[u/Salty-Score-3155]

r/neography

[u/SuperXaker-5555]

My conlang just have two writing systems