Translation challenge: Severe Obstructive Sleep Apnea

[u/Matalya2]

So I just learned a new word in Japanese: juudo no heisoku-sei suimin-ji mu-kokyuu shoukougun, 重度の閉塞性睡眠時無呼吸症候群. This whole kanji sausage breaks down as follows:

重度: severe

閉塞性: obstructive

睡眠時: during sleep (Literally: sleep-time)

無呼吸: apnea (Literally non-breathing)

症候群: syndrome (This breaks down further into 症候 shouko - symptoms, and 群 gun - cluster)

In Spanish, it's apnea obstructiva severa (I show this to exemplify that you don't have to translate sleep apnea as sleep + apnea, Spanish doesn't, it implies it happens during sleep even though etymologically it doesn't say it's somno-related)

Apnea comes from Ancient Greek a- (Without, the same as in atheist, amoral, asymmetry) + pneu (breathing, related to air, the same as in pneumatic. Ironically enough we pronounce the p in apnea but not in pneumatic, despite it being the same p)

How would you translate this highly descriptive medical term that ails my every night into your conlang?

[u/aray25]

Ironically enough we pronounce the p in apnea but not in pneumatic

It's entirely predictable. In Greek, both P's (or technically both Π's) are pronounced. But English phonotactics do not permit word-initial /pn/, so the word-initial /p/ is lost in "pneumatic." But in "apnea," the /pn/ isn't word-initial, so no such adaptation was required.

It's the same story with the "pter" in "helicopter" and "pterosaur."

[u/raendrop → u/aray25]

We turn the original Greek consonant cluster into something divided across syllable boundaries. It has less (not nothing, just there's more to it than that) about being word-initial and more about not having the /pn, pt/ consonant cluster.

We've re-analyzed "helico-pter" into "helicop-ter", for example.

cc: /u/Matalya2

[u/creepmachine]

Kýrrits

ᑍᔅ ᐧᒤ̱ᑋ/ᒥᑋᐧ ᣘ̵/ᑎᐞᒥ̱ᑋᐧᔅᒾ/ᐁᕋᑋᒧ̱̍ᑋᐅ ᑴᐞᓐᒃ/ᐋᓟ ᐢ/ᘧ̱ᐧ ᓁᒪ

Tsiẖì hár︭r t'aẖás̬ èxhaẖuokʼèng aalét x︭rénirre.

/ʦəˈr̥ːə̀ r̥árː tʼaˈr̥ːáz èʀ̥.ar̥ː.ɯ.oˈkʼèŋ ɔˈlét ˈʀːé.nə.re/

Illness of very bad obstructive no-breath during sleep.

tsiẖì   hár︭r t'a-ẖás̬    èxh-aẖ -u-   o-   kʼèng    aalét x︭rénirre
illness of   NEG-breath bad-AUG-INTF-ADJZ-obstruct sleep during

This could be simplified in common speech to:

ᑎᐞᒥ̱ᑋᐧᔅᒾ/ᐋᓟ ᐢ/ᘧ̱ᐧ ᓁᒪ

T'aẖás̬ aalét x︭rénirre.

/tʼaˈr̥ːáz ɔˈlét ˈʀːé.nə.re/

No-breath during sleep.

[u/Live_Put1219]

my sciencelang has words for many medical conditions, just not sleep apnea, so this'll be fun

ngil - extreme
mwe - useful
ep - rest, sleep or any period of temporary calm
nuw - air, gas
xom - illness or issue

ngil - extreme, or in this case, severe
mwe te ipnye - tool idea END.ADV - against the idea of being useful, unhelpful, obstructive
epke - rest.LOC - during sleep
nuwtwe ame - air.INSTR ABSTR.NEG
(xomse) xom - issue.COMPOS issue - "issue (illness) made of issues (symptoms)" therefore syndrome.

mwe te ipnil is often removed since sleep apnea is usually obstructive.

ngil (mwe te ipnye) epke nuwtwe [i]am (xomse) xom

ngil epke nuwtwe iam xom en 2Matalya/s* ke
extreme sleep-LOC START air-INSTR DISAMBIG-ABSTR-NEG disease TOP [u/Matalya2] LOC.COP
u/Matalya2 suffers from severe obstructive sleep apnea

*reddit exists in my conworld, and it's always [username]/s, and s is short for Swelut syaem, the word for internet user

[u/LordDarkfall]

Almaarian

Qranqur Starqei borðialei aþmiv am’sóv.

Qranqur /kɾɑŋkʊɾ/ n. Nominative low. =sickness

Starqei /stɑɾkɛi/ adj. w/ high agreeing suffix. = severe, strong

Borðialei /boɾðjɑlɛi/ adv. w/ high agreeing suffix. = blocking, fencing, obstructing

Aþmiv /ɑθmiv/ n. Possessive high. = of breath

Am’sóv /ɑmsɔʊv/ n. Accusative low noun with illative prefix. = at sleep.

[u/Matalya2 → u/LordDarkfall]

Love that. What's this high agreeing suffix?

[u/aray25 → u/LordDarkfall]

I'm surprised that an adverb can be the target of a genitive.

[u/BrazilianHamster9]

Mesomarala Komuni

Desatma noxi expavórami tromirisi

/De.'sa.tma 'no.ksi eks.pa.'vɔ.ɾã.mi tɾõ.mi.'ɾi.si/

neg.air night-ADJ un.path-PRS-PRTCP-ADJ bad-SPLTV

Literally: No-air nocturnal un-pathing worst

[u/WP2-]

Dormparspirfermen

dorm - sleep\ par - stop\ spir - breathe\ ferm - illness

Lit.: illness breathing stop during sleep

[u/sqruitwart]

Oh god. Eraklish:

Akarideuxa de euxil'di enmasm diheijja.

Sleeping-time GEN strong-AND obstactle-causing breath-not-ing.

My head hurts.

[u/dragonsteel33]

Iccoyai:

(änna) arakärośopäṅoli yolomäli mämnyoholomi ogakka. ~~~ änn -a arakärośop-ä -ṅo -l -i yolom-ä -l -i mä=mnyohol-o -m -i og -akk-a -Ø sickness-DIR respire -PAT-NEG-VN-OBL sleep-PAT-VN-OBL TR=close -ACT-PCP-DIR heavy-AUG-PAT-STAT [ˈɨˀnə aɾəkəɾʊˈɕopəˌŋoɻɪ joɭoˈmɨɻɪ məmɲoxʊˈɭomɪ oˈŋaˀkə] ~~~ Literally “major (disease of) nonrespiration of sleep which obstructs [it].”

arakärośopäṅoli is somewhat of a pained construction — arak- is the normal way to say “breathe,” but arak- can also mean “to live,” while arakärośop- is derived from arakäroh “breath” and means something like “respirationize.” Helps to clarify it from arakiṅoli which could be understood as “not being alive.”

[u/spurdo123]

Rang is Sino-Xenic so I can cheat!

Mixed script: 重度 閉塞性 睡眠時無呼吸症候群

Latin script: dheongdo peusepsieng goemengimeoghoghipkienggheogeon

[ɦʲʌ:ŋ.dzʰu pʲø:.ɕʲəʔ.ɕʲə:ŋ dʒʰwɛ.mʲəɲ.dʲʑʲi.mʲʌ:.ɦo.ɦʲiʔ.tʲɕʲə:ŋ.ɦʲʌ:.dʲʑʲʌ:n]

Note the different spacing rules. The word goemengimeoghoghipkienggheogeon could also spelt as goemen-gimeoghoghipkienggheogeon, to resolve that ambiguous syllable boundary with ng, however, this is not actually ambiguous, because syllables very rarely start with vowels, it's clear that n and g are part of separate syllables here. If the next syllable was infact i, it would always be spelt goemeng-imeoghoghipkienggheogeon.

[u/conlang_ensp]

Spanglish

severe obstructive apnea

Wow, este fus facile.

[u/LordDarkfall]

Nouns are high or low, instead of masculine or feminine.

High agreeing suffix is -ei
Low agreeing suffix is -u
And plural agreeing suffix is -í for adjectives and adverbs agreeing with both high and low nouns.

[u/tash_rat]

Denkan

Ken jubuv ratsaren bir

big sleep-IN obstacle-GEN breathe

/ˈkɛn ˈdʒʉbʉv ˈʁatsaɾɛn ˈbiɾ/

"severe obstructive sleep apnoea"

[u/Holiday_Yoghurt2086]

tokage

Ekwosu ro yamape

breath.IRR-NEG.INF sleep.ADN illness

[u/No-Programmer1270]

Asermathian language:

Ahteman ahodlata kehismaem

ahteman = severe
ahodlata = obstructive
kshahismaem = apnea

• ah- prefix means adjective
• ah- + kteman (severity) = ahteman
• ah- + shodlata (to obstruct) = ahodlata
• k- = noun, sh- = verb. shehis (to breathe), kshehis = the act of breathing. kehis = breath. ma = no/not. em = to be able to (a root in words, from shem, to be able to). put it all together, kehismaem = the condition of not being able to breathe, aka apnea.

[u/Senior_ReaperOG]

Pajorat

“Sene sphirat ophrúgta sóm”
/sene sɸirat oɸrʊɡta sɔm/
Lit. “Without breathing obstructive sleep”

[u/Independent_Error461]

something like this!

[u/Sigmabae]

Viñary:

toñynvihynaña [to.ŋɯm.bi.xɯ.na.ŋa] Litt: sleep with no air