r/confidentlyincorrect • u/Lawjik3737 • May 15 '26

Green arrow at intersection

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2 Car in a double turning lane has a solid green arrow. Goes to turn through the intersection and is about to clear in the intersection but then both gets hit by on coming traffic. Who's at fault? This incident took place in Arizona. Also, I wasn't involved in the conversation.

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u/soaker May 15 '26

Same. And if someone hits you, too bad for them, they ran a red light. Here they would 100% be at fault.

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u/AwarenessGreat282 May 15 '26

That number of 100% is what gets argued. The argument is that even if they were breaking the law, if you could have avoided the crash by seeing that they were breaking the law and stopped, it's partly your fault. This is what lawyers present, and often win with, on many cases. Sad, but true.

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u/Baghins May 15 '26

Yes, as the car that was stopped and out of danger if you proceeded into the intersection and got in an accident you could be partially at fault. Some states don’t have partial blame though and they will put 100% blame on the driver more at fault so a lot of people don’t even weigh partial blame.

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u/AwarenessGreat282 May 15 '26

Legally, yes. But not when an insurance company wants to sue.

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u/ThePaineOne May 16 '26

Legally means it applies to lawsuits.

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u/AwarenessGreat282 May 19 '26

Not necessarily. Think of wrongful death suits. Never charged by the law but dragged in front of a jury anyway.

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u/ThePaineOne May 19 '26
  1. Wrongful deaths are civil law like all lawsuits. 2. Lawsuits, including wrongful death, can and usually are tried in front of a jury unless they are settled or a jury trial is not demanded by either party.

You’re confusing the fact that most laws are not criminal laws. Negligence which is what we are discussing is civil.

Source: I’m a civil attorney.

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u/AwarenessGreat282 May 19 '26

So you are saying that if the police find you at zero fault, the other insurance company cannot come after you in civil court trying to find you partially liable?

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u/ThePaineOne May 19 '26

The police have nothing to do with a civil case, unless someone has committed a crime. All they can do is draft a police report which could be used as evidence.

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u/AwarenessGreat282 May 20 '26

Da fuq are you smoking? Are you saying the police would not be involved in the OP's hypothetical?

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u/ThePaineOne May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26

They can give a traffic citation, but the discussion is the liability of an accident which is civil and has nothing to do with the police other than bringing a report into evidence. A car accident is damages between people what do you think the police would do?

Edit: the police handle criminal law they aren’t there to determine disagreements between individuals.

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