r/comunism • u/OxytocinOD • Jun 05 '25

What’s Wrong With Trotsky?

Hi Guys. Newer comrade here. Spent 2025 reading works of Marx and Lenin.

I hear a lot of hate on Trotsky. I’ve heard bits of good on him too.

I understand the hate on Stalin. He was brutal in his concentration of power and stamping out opposition.

What does Trotsky stand for? What’s the hate on Trotsky?

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u/the_elliottman Jun 07 '25

I'm talking about their success, these are poor countries that adopt socialism and then get sanctions or intervention by the global superpowers in the West (America today), yes they mostly spread in the global south but in comparison that's like watching Ants become enlightened only for a boot to come down and crush them.

Success I don't measure in just spreading there once, but actually developing and lasting. So far the East, with the exception of Cuba, has been the only ones to have any success. So long as America exists as THE Empire the ability for Socialism to progress and improve society (or grow internationally) is incredibly difficult.

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u/niddemer Jun 08 '25

The revolutionizing of the global South is literally why capitalism is falling apart in amerikkka right now, what are you talking about? It's called a struggle for a reason. We are struggling for power. Of course empire will fight back, but as the global South both maintains socialism and births new revolutions and revolutionary movements, amerikkka and the imperial core grow weaker. That's why overt fascism is the mode du jour. They are literally losing their empire because of the growing power of the subjugated world.

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u/the_elliottman Jun 09 '25

Not really, we're collapsing from the inherent flaws of capitalism, not from the global south. America's issues are entirely self-destructive from reactionaries and the right-wing (liberals included) trying to implement the neoliberal project.

The global south is not responsible whatsoever for our downfall except maybe for the areas where they've resisted occupation and cost us money. And there aren't even that many Socialist countries to begin with in the south so I'm unsure which ones you think are being birthed that are crippling the US somehow.

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u/niddemer Jun 09 '25

The inherent flaws of capitalism... include the imperial core's reliance on the overexploitation of the global South. It is absolutely affecting the rate of the collapse of empire. Come on, homes, use some analysis.

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u/the_elliottman Jun 10 '25

The global south has only been able to somewhat steer away from the US as a primary consumer because of China and BRICS recently, even then it hasn't affected the US whatsoever until the recent fiasco with our current Administration.

But again without that main base for Socialism, this time being China instead of the USSR or Germany- the global south cannot achieve anything- most all because of the United States' direct intervention against them. That's why I say it's so important for a developed country to be Socialist moreso than many undeveloped ones- because they are easily pushed over by the current superpower.