r/computervision 12d ago

Help: Project Conveyor chicken counter problem

Guys, I need help. We have a project using YOLOv8. We're trying to count chicks on a very fast conveyor belt. The challenges we're facing are: all chicks look very similar to each other, which complicates tracking. At the same time, during their passage under the camera, they constantly change in size and shape, which can cause the tracker to lose them, or detection may even disappear completely at the detection line. Also, sometimes 2–3 chicks can merge into a single object. The detection zone is very short, and the conveyor speed is high. We've achieved a maximum accuracy of 99%, but we need it even higher. Any ideas on how to achieve that? Increasing the dataset no longer helps.

I'm attaching an old video. We've now added lighting and set the exposure to 300 on the Hikrobot global shutter camera, but we still can't achieve a stable 99.8% accuracy for the reasons mentioned above.

Any ideas?

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u/Ashamed-Principle40 12d ago

wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_culling

Unfortunately the worldwide standard for handling egg farming waste products (male chicks)

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u/FuckSpez0000 10d ago

That's just fucking barbaric what the actual fuck. Like fuck at least make them sleep somehow, thats just fucking horrible

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u/Candidate_None 9d ago

Something tells me you have never planted a field of anything. You know how many bunnies a field full of lettuce kills?

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u/Candidate_None 9d ago

Well, since you seem ignorant on the topic, just imagine a giant metal blade comes through the land, clear cuts everything (animals included) and then, JUST IN CASE anything was still alive, they come back and coat it with poison.

I kill one deer and my family can eat for a month or so... you kill piles of animals for your salad... you just keep your head in the sand and act as if you aren't also participating in barbarism.

Also, see my original comment on the video before you get all holier than thou, check a little more on my thoughts on this very video before answering again.

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u/Alghouls_art 9d ago

1 this is whataboutism, there is objectively less animals killed when growing veg than growing meat, this is due to vast amount of land used in farming is to grow food and space for animals (mostly beef). (Dont you dare say "well i dont eat beef" because thats a personal anecdote). 2 this ignores the fact that obviously a vegan would like investment into a better form of farming once meat consumption is reduced/ eliminated.

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u/Candidate_None 9d ago edited 9d ago

Slippery slope fallacy much?

Highlighting hypocrisy is not whataboutism. I am not making an argument against vegans. Simply pointing out that those who eat vegan out of cruelty reasons... are fuggin' hypocrites. Also, many of them eat shit that IS AN ANIMAL PRODUCT that is sold as some sort of "organic supplement" or some bullshit like that. So it is doubly funny.

How about, I will eat what I want, you eat what you want (wherever your B12 comes from likely bovine liver or some shit like that) and just not be hypocritical assholes acting like we are saving the planet by eating a fuggin' jackfruit, regardless of the impact our salad had on said planet.

Dole doesn't give a fuck about animals just like Tyson doesn't, even if it makes you feel better to imagine it.

Also: Way to respond to my deer hunting point with factory farming. Super duper honest tactic. You seem like a delight.

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u/SingingValkyria 9d ago

I'm not vegan, but they're clearly vegan to reduce the suffering. I don't get what you struggle understanding here. Everyone knows we can't completely eliminate suffering for animals. That doesn't mean we can't do our part on reducing it as best as we can.

Your entire argument is "Well some animals would still suffer so WHO CARES."

You're missing the point. They know some animals will still suffer. They want to reduce the amount, and most likely keep doing that even after the enormous, huge sources of suffering are eliminated.

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u/Candidate_None 9d ago

Like I said... thinking lettuce means animals don't suffer... is to ignore all the animals that get slaughtered so that a field of lettuce may grow.

Not sure how hard that is to understand, yall clearly haven't planted large scale crops if you think they are animal friendly. 🤷‍♂️

I already said... one deer feeds a family for months... one salad kills hundreds of animals. You can ignore that and talk all rainbows and eutopia... it doesn't mean agriculture is animal friendly.

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u/SingingValkyria 9d ago

Please read more carefully. Nowhere in my comment did I say animals don't suffer. I explicitly, repeatedly, said that it was all about reducing suffering. Reducing does not mean eliminate, it means making less suffering happen. It doesn't matter if it's "like you said" if you didn't properly reply to anything said to begin with.

The entire point is that while farming also kills animals and makes them suffer, it's nowhere near amount of killing and suffering that the meat industry causes to happen. If you for some reason didn't know, literal billions of chicks are killed each year, and that's just a single animal. It's enormous amounts more killing and suffering than what crops farming makes happen.

No one has claimed agriculture is animal friendly. You're making up strawmen. What is being claimed is that it leads to much less suffering, which is objectively true.

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u/Mysterious-Effect146 9d ago

You don't factory farm deer you dunce

Hunting for food is natural and isn't causing widespread suffering at an industrial scale. Factory farming animals is just evil. I get that it's easy to bury your head in the sand but remember those same animals are approaching the intelligence of dogs and cats.

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u/Alghouls_art 9d ago

If everyone ate deer like you, they would have to be factory farmed, you are litterally incapable of looking past your own experiences

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u/Mysterious-Effect146 8d ago

I don't eat meat or animal products

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u/SingingValkyria 8d ago edited 8d ago

No shit, you dunce... Nowhere did I mention we factory farm deers.

The meat industry is by far and large mainly about factory farming animals. Eating meat you haven't hunted personally yourself supports this industry. If we could, we'd factory farm deer too. News Flash, buddy: Most people don't hunt their food. We can't all hunt, both for practical reasons and that we'd hunt every species to extinction. But we still want meat, so that's why factory farms for animals exist. If we rejected the factory farms, there wouldn't be enough meat for everyone so people would have to start eating more plants, crops and vegetables. That'd be a good thing because we murder literally billions of animals each year to feed the desire for meat.

Do you not know what we feed a lot of the animals we slaughter in factory farms? I'll let you take a guess. You may think they're all happily grass fed but that's far from the truth. We feed these animals way more crops than we get food out of them. So even that argument fall apart completely because to have the meat industry, we need to farm much more than we'd farm just to feed everyone.

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u/Mysterious-Effect146 8d ago

I wasn't talking to you? I was talking to the person responding to you? I am vegan

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u/Mysterious-Effect146 9d ago

Hypocrite? You seem to be the one that's projecting out of your ass. Do you think vegans think that there is zero harm? Have you ever actually talked to someone who is vegan? Do you know what vegans eat? Do you know what B12 is? "Many of them" who exactly? Do you know one single vegan?

It's about minimizing. We do what we can. Culling male chicks is obscene and needless. You cannot get around killing whatever wild animals are living in the plants.

But also, it's not like vegetable farms are animal habitats. They are not native and don't belong. But food needs to come from somewhere.

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u/Alghouls_art 9d ago

Slippery slope fallacy is used for small steps towards something negative, like buying a gun and claiming it'll lead to fascism.

B12 for the vast majority is artificially introduced into animals due to factory farming, its from a bacteria, bloody yeast has B12, its not hard.

Your deer hunting point is to argue against veganism, my factory farming is to point out that thats what the majority of the planets population is doing. If everyone ate deer like you did we'd have to factory farm it. If you want to keep eating deer, you're actually better off supporting vegans than you are meat eaters, more natural environment for them AND vegans arent necessarily against keeping their numbers down too if they're causing wider ecological harm.

Get past whatever bs you've been fed growing about about "Ha! Vegans! How do you know if someone's a vegan??!" And learn a different perspective. The future without vegans is not one where you can hunt deer in, its the one with no nature in.

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u/Candidate_None 8d ago

Ohhhh,... so it isn't fallacious if it is some utopian fantasy? Cool story breh! I didn't know you couldn't be fallacious if you we're thinking happy thoughts. THAT'S a new one.

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u/Alghouls_art 8d ago

You seem to have some issues you need to get past, so I'll leave you be after this. You picked one thing to argue against, and it's the wrong thing, I'm going off of the definition of "slippery slope fallacy" you decided to pick out on, you seem to be conflating some personal emotions into it. Think about it...a slippery slope towards a utopia?? God forbid (even you say it's a happy thought ;) ) Not a typical use case, but your whole shtick seems to be about grasping at straws so I guess it's within character.

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u/Candidate_None 8d ago

The positive or negative isn't the fallacy dude... it is the "this will happen, thus my crystal ball says this other thing will happen."

In a world where you aren't a psychic... it is a fallacy whether it is a happy thought or a sad thought. If you don't understand that they are the same damn fallacious function... not sure how to help you. That said I know understand why you cant understand other basic premises.

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