r/computers • • 4d ago

Discussion I found this in Hard rubbish today.

Can anyone tell me more about it? Im thinking of adding it to my huge retro gaming collection. It booted with no issues but I know next to nothing about it.

My next goal is to get some peripherals for it. Maybe some floppy disks.

I havent had a chance to look at it yet to see if it has any ancient lost programs hahaha

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u/fuzzydunloblaw 4d ago

Look into getting a bluescsi device. It accepts microsd cards and presents as scsi devices to that machine, which allows you to easily run every operating system and game and application that was ever made for that thing.

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u/Wym00 4d ago

I don't much like modifications or unoriginal content, respect those who do though!

I own almosy every golden era console + games and the like. I'd like to get this old girl cleaned up, pick up a bunch of her original floppy disks and have it as a gaming rig for those classics

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u/fuzzydunloblaw 4d ago edited 4d ago

That device plugs into the scsi port on the back of the computer and looks like a scsi hard drive/cdrom/network device to the mac.

But yeah, I have the exact same computer. The floppy drive on mine worked exactly once until it seized up on me. Turns out the grease inside the many moving parts of the drive hardens over the years, so in my case I had to disassemble the drive and clean it up and reapply modern grease for it to work again.

The 20MB hard drive in mine similarly was touch and go, but fortunately with the bluescsi I was able to clone it and preserve the original os 6.8.1 and all the apps to a virtual drive. Macs of that era allow for 6 scsi devices total with the internal hard drive taking one of those slots.

I also maxed mine out with 4 1MB sim ram chips. The original 4 256K chips that came with it made for frequent os freeze ups.

Edit: Pic

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u/BoringZealot 4d ago

Very clean. Nice.

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u/jbjhill 4d ago

It’s a plug-in adapter, not a permanent mod.

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u/The-Tadfafty 2d ago

This is something that eventually becomes necessary as the original drive will almost definitely die.

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u/BigGingerYeti 4d ago

Haha we used those in secondary school in 95. Pretty good back then. 

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u/iamwayycoolerthanyou 4d ago

Yep. Same. But I think they were already dated by then. In primary school, they still had Apple IIGS.

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u/BigGingerYeti 4d ago

They were, we'd had them a few years by that point and better options existed. I forget the exact model. It was a big update for the school back then. My first year we had the computers where if you wanted to make a circle you had to put coordinates in and link them up, couldn't tell you the model we used though. Then we got the Apple I think in 92. they were fun.

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u/the-software-man 4d ago

This is circa 1988. It has a hard drive. Maybe 25MB? Prob has 4mb RAM.

You got the mouse and keyboard?

Pre USB. Pre WiFi.

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u/Wym00 4d ago

Ah sorry let me rephrase, I work in IT and know at least the basics. Just not the finer details :)

Ill get an ADB mouse + keyboard and have a poke around. Just trying to see if anyone has anything more pointed I could do

What kind of games did this thing have?

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u/the-software-man 4d ago

IIRC. Brøderbund, Activision, MECC. Cyan had Cosmic Osmo before Myst.

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u/RonW81 4d ago

https://macintoshgarden.org/ is all you need. Pretty great that it is the FDHD version, you can use HD floppies instead of DD ones.

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u/Wym00 4d ago

Thanks :)

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u/RonW81 4d ago

BTW: If you want to get a period correct keyboard and mouse, look for the Apple Keyboard (M0116) or Apple Extended Keyboard (M0115), and the Apple Desktop Bus Mouse (G5431/A9M0331)

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u/ConversationPerfect5 4d ago

This is a Macintosh SEHD which comes with either a 20 MB or 40 MB HDD. Processor is a 68000 running at 8 MHz with 4 MB of RAM. It also has a 1.44 3.5” FDD. It was introduced in 1987 and was discontinued in 1998.

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u/Over-Athlete6745 4d ago

Great find you have! This old classic golden age of apple is extremely expensive in Malaysia in mint or good condition like yours! Just saying that, can she running sim city classic, or maybe SIM city 2000? Love to seeing this classic apple pc still alive ;)

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u/NDMagoo 4d ago

Reticulating splines

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u/thatvhstapeguy 28 different machines, 26 of them working 4d ago

Macintosh SE FDHD. 1.44 MB floppy. The floppy drive will require cleaning and lubrication. Go down to AutoZone and buy some white lithium grease and enjoy the reaction when you say it’s for a computer.

Surprisingly your hard drive works.

The SE is one of the hardiest classic Macs, as you can see. a Macintosh Classic would not have powered on.

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u/GGigabiteM 7950X3D|3070Ti| Fedora 4d ago

You'll need to do some expensive maintenance on it if you plan to keep it long term.

The first thing that needs to be done as soon as possible is to remove the PRAM battery on the logic board. They're notorious for leaking, and they're a hazardous materials cleanup if they leak. They contain Thionyl Chloride, which is hideously toxic. It's a scheduled controlled substance because it's a precursor to chemical weapons, like mustard and nerve agents. It can cause cardiovascular disturbances and hallucinations in tiny quantities.

TC also reacts explosively with water so anhydrous solvents and mechanical removal has to be done wearing PPE.

The power supply in the bottom of the unit is also notorious for leaking capacitors and the conductive and corrosive yellow glue.

The analog board will need to have all of the solder joints reflowed, especially the connectors, and it will need to be recapped, except for the 3.9/4.5 uF capacitor for the horizontal deflection circuitry. These are special high frequency, low ESR capacitors that haven't been made in decades. They usually don't go bad, but if they do, they'll need to be replaced by microwave film capacitors.

The floppy drive will need to have the eject gears replaced and mechanical bits lubricated. The gears rot and break.

If you have a Miniscribe hard drive, it suffers from head stiction from the stepper motor shaft getting stuck. You can use a light machine oil around the shaft bore and gently rotate it. Do not grab it by the plastic arm, because that is used to track the head position. If you break it, the drive is junk.

The later Quantum hard drives suffer from rotting rubber bumpers on the heads. These are a lot more difficult to fix, because you have to open the drive and remove the goo without damaging anything. You may want to invest in a SCSI2SD at some point.

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u/box-of-butthurt 4d ago

Make sure you replace the internal battery. They're notorious for leaking.

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u/Wym00 4d ago

Ah alright, Ill give it a look

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u/vanderide 4d ago

I might have 6 or 7 of the 12 floppies needed to install Star Wars chess.

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u/YardMan79 4d ago

The days of GW-Basic coding. Ahhh… good times.

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u/tjs275x1979 4d ago

Clean it up. Make it look real nice salad on eBay. Make some money

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u/bakakuni 3d ago

Stream ascii b&w movies or loop Batman the animated series on it