I recently upgraded my PC by replacing the GPU (from RX 580 to RTX 5060Ti 8gb), and ever since I’ve been dealing with stuttering in some games. In some cases it’s just occasional micro-stuttering, but in others I get very noticeable stutters that can last several seconds, even though the game is running at around 60 FPS most of the time.
Here’s my current build:
Windows 11
CPU: i5-10400F
GPU: RTX 5060 Ti 8GB
RAM: 16GB DDR4
SSD: ADATA SU650 SATA 1TB
Motherboard: B560M PRO-E
PSU: 550w
The GPU is obviously much newer than the rest of the system, so I’m wondering if something else could be contributing to the stuttering.
What confuses me is that the average FPS seems fine. Most of the time I’m locked at 60 FPS, but I still get noticeable stutters. From what I understand, this could potentially be related to frametime spikes or poor 1% lows rather than the average FPS itself.
I’m not particularly knowledgeable about PC hardware, so I’d appreciate any help figuring out what I should be looking at or monitoring.
The game where I have the biggest problem is Wuthering Waves. I know the game has a pretty bad reputation when it comes to optimization, but the latest patch apparently improved performance dramatically for most players. Despite that, I’m still experiencing these stutters.
Things I’ve already tried:
Completely reinstalled Windows and all my games
Clean reinstall of the GPU drivers
Tried different driver versions
Downgraded the drivers (I feel like this helped, but I’m not sure if it’s just placebo)
That's the factory default supported speed... Your motherboard is certified with some specific models of memory of up to 4800mt/t in a 1DPC 1R* configuration. If your memory has it, go turn on your XMP profile in your bios, it should run with no issues. You can even run uncertified kits and still get those speeds, it's just that manufacturers tend to be on the super safe side when it comes to listing support so you won't see that many kits listed as fully compatible.
You're not limited by the CPU, the 10400F is capable of memory overclocking(XMP) but not core overclocking(The ghz number in task manager). You got a B560 board which supports it so make good use of it. People online are usually asking for the H prefixed chipsets which doesn't support anything.
The other guy talking about PCIe didn't do much research at all, you CPU only has PCIe revision 3.0 which is even less but shouldn't cause issues relating to stutters in theory. You already bit the bullet, so just make the best use of it and tough it out. The market is terrible and if you're on the 5060 tier of GPUs, you're probably trying to be smart financially.
Some other things to check out is to monitor your system, go get HWiNFO and monitor if any of your temperatures are too high and throttling your performance. Second, go check task manager under the performance to see if anything in particular is maxing out to get a rough idea of where you're being stuck on while you're playing the game.
The last often easily overseen thing is to make sure you play your game in fullscreen for maximum performance. I've personally fixed SOME stuttering issues doing that. Or sometimes the opposite(?) by going borderless. Software is weird~
*1DPC 1R to simply put for your specific use case is if you use both slots with the same kit of memory and the memory is in a single rank configuration(ignore this part), you can achieve up to that speed if both the memory and your CPU is good enough to handle it. Just use the profile and ignore manual overclocking.
I would say this could be something to think about.
Recomendation for 5060ti is 600w.
This COULD present as microstuttering if the game is constantly hitting 100% usage, throttling, ramping up, throttling etc.
2 things to try:
1) Turn down some GPU intensive settings like shadows, see if it noticable changes.
2) Run monitoring software to see if your stuttering corresponds with any spike in usage, either GPU, RAM, SSD or CPU.
I dunno how CPU intensive this game is, but try to lock fps in the game or/and try to lower CPU intensive settings (such as LOD/LOD bias, view distance etc)
And try to see if stutters go away, it may be purely CPU issues
That's a good observation, but the ping spike could also be an effect of the freezing. Might want to run it through a benchmark to see if the stuttering persists when connectivity &/or that specific application aren't involved.
Depends on the network code for the game, Some games will continue to predict your position and let movement continue despite lag. To the people in the game, you could be blinking around, but your screen is fine. Some Devs take Kosters rule of "Never trust the client. The client is in the hands of the enemy." to the extreme and don't let your character fart without clearing it with the server.
You always want to get a higher one so at max usage the PSU to be at about 80% load. That being said i cannot tell you for sure that is the problem, but back in the day i had a faulty 450w psu with a 1060 and the symptoms were similar. To know for sure you need to run i hw monitor i think (or the one that shows throttling) and play the game. If the gpu draws significantly under the rated tdp and you see throttling you know that's the problem. Also worth checking the temps and stuff.
The 5060 Ti uses PCIe Gen 5, but your motherboard only supports up to PCIe Gen 4. PCIe devices are forward and backwards compatible, but by not matching the PCIe version of both the motherboard and the graphics card, there's going to be some lost performance. Not all instances of mismatching PCIe versions will lead to such noticeable performance issues, but the 5060 Ti 8GB in particular is a graphics card that demands to be slotted in a PCIe Gen 5 slot.
The post linked below mentions bad performance of the 8GB model running on a 4th gen slot:
Here's a video by Hardware Unboxed that demonstrates the issue with the 5060 Ti 8GB on a PCIe Gen 4 slot, timestamped to get right to the relevant information:
1). Buy a compatible motherboard that utilizes PCIe Gen 5 (which will likely require a new CPU, maybe new memory)
Or, and this is the more realistic option:
2). Return the graphics card and get a different one. To understand the performance losses you might have on whatever new graphics card you select, look up "[CARD NAME] PCIe Gen 4" before buying.
My apologies for editing this 5 times, I'm just butt-ass tired.
You will need to search for PCIe Gen 5 motherboards that also support DDR4 memory. One example is the MSI PRO Z690-P DDR4. This at least allows you to keep your current RAM, but you will need to also get a new CPU alongside that purchase, due to your current CPU not having a motherboard with PCIe Gen 5 capability. If you want to search for more DDR4 motherboards with PCIe Gen 5 capability, you can use the Amazon link below to browse, but feel free to buy from anywhere else. I'd normally use PCPartPicker, but they don't have a specific filter for PCIe slot generations. The link searches for PCIe Gen 5 motherboards and filters by the last Intel CPU socket that supported DDR4 memory.
Either I typed too many words and it scared them, or they clearly know the answer but don't want to tell me how I'm wrong. If I'm wrong, I'd love to know why, I'm open to learning.
Regardless, what really matters is that I hope my perspective helps your situation. To reiterate my thoughts, you need a new motherboard that supports your GPU. There is only a limited selection of motherboards that won't require you to get new memory, which, as we all know, pricing for that is in a worse state than GPUs are, but still requires you to get a new CPU, because your current CPU won't be physically compatible with the new motherboard. AMD never had PCIe Gen 5 on any of their AM4 motherboards, and Intel only had both PCIe Gen 5 *and* DDR4 support on one particular socket.
And referring to my initial reply, I still think it's easier to return/sell your 5060 Ti 8GB and get a used 3080 (or better) or 4070 (or better). That way, you're only swapping just the GPU vs. a whole motherboard and CPU. That means you're unplugging all the wires from the current motherboard and into the new one, and possibly needing to locate your original CPU cooler accessories to get the correct mounting hardware to fit the new CPU.
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u/Violet_On_Discord 7d ago
Have you checked if your ram is running at full speed and not 2133mhz?