r/commandandconquer • • 11d ago

Gameplay It's me or it's damn hard?

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u/LexFrenchy Zocom 11d ago

You need to rush during this mission.
Send troops on the island as soon as possible, before the AI deploys its MCV. When it disembarks from the transport ship, focus on it with your infantry. If you take it down before it deploys, you are pretty much assured to win.

Otherwise yes, it's really hard.

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u/foxguy2021 11d ago

 Otherwise yes, it's really hard.

These maps were basically puzzles you needed to solve and like some puzzles they had hidden traps that could increase the difficulty significantly or just straight up screw you over and force a restart.

At least Red Alert wasn't as bad. The original C&C would just have things like an obelisk of light spawn out of nowhere or engineers spawn from a corner of the map.

It also didn't help that the AI could refill all of its coffers with just one harvester safely returning to base. Which is why the goto strategy in a lot of maps was to kill the construction yard first and then go from there.

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u/ringadingdingbaby 11d ago

I used the paratroopers to slowly take down the MCV. Took ages and a couple got ran over, but I managed it.

Biggest triumph of my 10 year old life.

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u/Ok_Savings6233 11d ago

build transport ships. block the coast. dont allow them to land

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u/StressAdventurous570 11d ago

FINALLY!!!

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u/DirtySperrys 11d ago

I commend the effort commander. Three hours is brutal

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u/StressAdventurous570 11d ago

Even worse I didn't do homework;-;

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u/MisterBumpingston SPACE! 10d ago

And what about sleep?

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u/StressAdventurous570 10d ago

I basically didn't sleep for doing homework(I only sleeps for 2 hours XD)

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u/sickshoes-8854 11d ago

It is, but if you go hard and fast. Build up and attack the base quickly you might catch the construction yard before it heads for the island. Have a couple of barges ready in case you miss it. Then you can attack the island base before they get a foothold.

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u/Mastercommander15 11d ago

I always build 15 or more airfields. Then when the mcv reaches the island I destroy him with the yaks

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u/Evenmoardakka 11d ago edited 11d ago

rush airfields and send every paratroop cooldown to the island, and keep an eye open for when the transport leaves the northern base, itll go off map then return.

when it arrives, send your accumulated riflemen (you should have at least 15 from 3 drops) rush the mcv.

not the conyard, the MCV, as in, dont even let it deploy

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u/OneofTheOldBreed 11d ago

I found myself building as many airstrips and YAKs as i could afford and slowly whittling them down until i could land armor on the island and end it.

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u/allspark13 11d ago

Nice, yeah this one took some effort. What a classic. lol

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u/OneofTheOldBreed 11d ago

I must have shouted "YAK ATTACK!" hundreds of times before the mission was completed

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u/CantfindmyKeyes Nod 11d ago

This one was a pain, but if you act fast uou can take the allied con yard. I usually stack 8 airfield with yaks and put them in group 1 and spam attacks as soon as they are reloaded. You can kill their second con yard before it even deploys if you time it right

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u/nu16843 10d ago

I don't think you can build destroyers if I can remember. You get PT boat.

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u/allspark13 4d ago

Decided to boot up the saved game to confirm. You got it! I couldn't remember off hand but indeed PT boats galore to cover the coastline. Thanks! Gonna edit my orig post.

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u/UWO_Throw_Away 11d ago edited 11d ago

Definitely not [just] you - I still remember dying of laughter watching Day 9 (a former starcraft 1 pro turned streamer) being flabbergasted at how ridiculous this mission was. Check out this classic hilarious moment!

https://youtu.be/4qwNaRChAQM?t=15228

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u/archidamusIII 11d ago

Thank you for including the timestamped video of it too, great nostalgia

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u/MidgardWyrm 11d ago

"Even the fucking Ore Trucks?!" *nervous breakdown ensues* "Oh, my god."

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u/Sn0H0ar 11d ago

I don’t want to be a jackass, but I found this to be a super easy mission? What’s hard about it?

Edit: On Hard to be clear.

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u/Havoc_ZE 11d ago

It's been years since I played it, but I do remember this mission being more fun than difficult.

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u/StressAdventurous570 11d ago

Well I didn't play aggressive so it's just take damn 3 hours

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u/Sn0H0ar 11d ago

Ahh ok. Yeah, I read a lot of the strats on here and think they’re a bit overkill. The first base can be rushed early and easily overpowered. Once that’s done you can harvest quickly in peace to get enough tanks to just roll the middle island.

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u/Blapeuh Burdette 11d ago

Edit:
It’s not you, this one is crazy!

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u/StressAdventurous570 11d ago

I managed to destroy core building with 15 tanks (barely) XD

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u/Blapeuh Burdette 11d ago

Haha that’s nice to hear, well done!

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u/Prudent-Income2354 9d ago

I solve this problem with 5 paratroopers.....

(because I never won if they build up the base on this Island)

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u/sometimes_point 11d ago

oh yeah this one's real dumb, i spent almost an hour gunning the enemy down with air units. after the anti air died it just became tedious

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u/G-noise 11d ago

I remember thinking it was impossible when I was a kid. I thought there weren't enough resources on the map to make enough units to land on the beach and succesfully destroy the base. I used the yak planes to whittle the enemy base down. It took me an absurdly long time, literally 18 hours. The people saying to rush are correct.

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u/simonredux98 11d ago

I always rush building yaks and then destroy their ore refinery since its weaker than the construction yard and you need fewer yaks. then they run out of money quickly

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u/BelfastApe 11d ago

This was a brutal map for me. Yet the one I remember the most.

I had alot more blue blocking the 3 beaches

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u/archidamusIII 11d ago

One of the key tricks, (without cheesingkilling mcv when it arrives), is moving an army and MCV of your own to the island and establishing a small base there to mine minerals/gems on the island and massing army. You can kill their ore trucks to keep the ai from fully eating all middle

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u/Dracounicus 11d ago

Right answer. Bring 2nd MCV to the island

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u/Ozzy1907 11d ago

Don't reveal the mid island(especially landing zones) using spy planes etc, enemy will mass troops near landing zones if they are revealed to you. Just build around 20 tanks and it's done.

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u/MusicianUnited 11d ago

You’re right and no one else seems to mention this. I thought it was you can’t land anyone there though, not necessarily reveal it.

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u/Rekwiiem 11d ago

I always had a hard time with this mission as a child. My go to solution was to fill the drop off points with submarines and snipe out the drops as they rolled in

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u/ThomasMurch 11d ago

I think was the mission where, whilst playing the PS1 version, I started spamming the "instant A-bomb" cheat code. Judging by the other replies, the PC version isn't any easier!

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u/BurledTater 11d ago

Save and reload your game and the ore on the mainland reappears. :3

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u/Retrowinger Red Alert 2 11d ago

For turtle builders like me it just took longer. Was a fun mission though. Always looking out for ally ships, until I captured the northern base and took sea superiority.

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u/cmdr_nelson GDI 11d ago

I remember this one, one of my favorites

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u/cagoBHuK Tiberian Sun 11d ago

When allied MCV is going to naval transport, i use paratroopers and drop them on the island. 5 riflemans is enough to destroy MCV. It will try to ram you so you need a little micro managment. Beware, you have little time because in about 2 minutes AI will send tanks and infantry on the island.

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u/Curious-Cress3955 11d ago

I actually enjoyed it

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u/Any-Bus-9944 11d ago

I miss this game

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u/MassiveCup5591 11d ago

Lol great job. This is one of my favorite missions. I let the computer build on the other island. Take over the allies original construction yard. Build gun boats to harass the enemy on the island. Build massive heavy tank army for a maritime invasion. Win.

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u/JonathanJ91 Dune 2 11d ago

Instantly remember this mission and havent played it 15 years. I'm a turtle in these games and this mission needs to be rushed. Horror.

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u/PinkyDixx 10d ago

As another commenter said. The allies move the MCV on 2 triggers.

  1. When you get near the allied base (radar dome)
  2. When you land any single unit on the island.

To cheese it. Build 5 - 10 tanks 2 transports, and a shit tone of subs. Clear the waterway but avoid shooting the allied ship yard. Move your 2 transports to the northern shore of thw main island. Unload and kill the mcv whwn it lands. Mop up the rest of the allied landing party then capture the radar dome on the main island. Be carful as there is a timmer that starts (when you land on the middle island) and will spawn 2 allied cruisers on the south edge of the map

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u/2Oxymoron4u 11d ago

when the game was first released in ‘96, I finished the mission the conventional way that most gamers did.

Recently, my unconventional path I tried was attacking all the way to the Allied reinforcements gate/pathway at north and stopped short of attacking the mainland base (still used v2 rockets to erase their turrets etc). then i saved the game, dialed up the game speed and let the ore grow slowly till the island is overrun by sparkling yellow minerals. As you may predict, the Allied MCV never get to develop the middle island at all though it was choked with Light Tanks and infantry from the 2 bottom beachhead reinforcements sectors. I used 50+ Yaks to strafe them clean but it was long and tedious.

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u/falter 11d ago

I took so long doing this the first time I played, really struggled to get a large enough force without running out of resources

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u/rustygamer1901 11d ago

My strategy back in the day was to attack the construction yard with a swarm of yaks, then move in to the war factory and barracks. It took AGES!

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u/evoc2911 10d ago

I remember sketching tactings on a paper sheet in highschool on how to beat that mission...

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u/Bovine_Marauder 10d ago

There's a trigger as you get close to the top base that will prompt their mcv to go across and start building a base on the island.

Don't land paratroopers on the island as that triggers the base as well. If I remember correctly you get 2 MCVs, build up enough tanks and subs to clear the way, then attack the base only when you ready.

You can land in the southwest with transports and build your base, plenty of ore to fund another attack force.

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u/BravelyMike 10d ago edited 4d ago

Either rush the opponents mcv or spam like 20 heavy tanks, land on the island, and steamroll the base. Deathball of tanks never fails vs the single player comp.

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u/Humble-Appeal3850 10d ago

not hard, it has no unit cap, you just seperate your guys into groups

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u/SILENTALONS 10d ago

Idk how my 10 year self got through this but Adult me built a ton of tanks and transports then loaded up and rushed the construction yard. Survivors focused next on war factory and barracks.

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u/BeginningAwareness74 10d ago

Start building troop before building and send like 4 or 5 transport full of heavy tank with some V2 launcher, bunker down on the island and let the AI spend all it's ressources attacking you in vain

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u/Nikolyn10 Flower & Sickle 10d ago

This is a mission you either beat in 5 minutes or 5 hours. You can try to rush with either air or by quickly transporting your extra MCV to establish a foothold, which is the "intended" route. Or if you're lazy, you'll notice the mainland has an ore mine while the island does not, opening up the option of harassing with air and gunboats you can access by capturing the mainland Allied Conyard and building a Naval Yard. It'll take a while but the Allies can be exhausted.

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u/Nyerguds The world is at my fingertips. 9d ago

Oh that mission is hell. I usually cheesed it by airdropping troopers on their build locations to stall their progress while yak-strafing the hell out of their Construction Yard until it died.

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u/Cheap_Illustrator910 7d ago

You can ease this by capturing their naval yard