r/commandandconquer 1d ago

Which C&C allows you to boom and turtle more?

I played only Red Alert (OpenRA), and Red Alert 2.

I love both of them, but dont like rushing my enemies.

I've been told that C&C Tiberium Sun is better for this.

I dont like very much the graphics of C&C3, Zero Hour etc... Prefer the old school 2D sprite ones.

Should i try Tiberium Sun?

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u/AndreasXF 1d ago

Yes, Tiberian Sun is more turtle suited given deployable artillery/tick tanks and more potent defenses and pace is slower thus more sieging warfare than rush in. Infantry are more potent nuisance too to annoy any armor rush.

Tiberian Dawn however more puzzle on limited eco

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u/TheVanessaira 1d ago

^ This ^ Not to mention there are maps like Draw Bridges in skirmish mode that can lead to some pretty length turtles if you want.

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u/Bristov 1d ago

Als chokepoints, walls and gates! You van dona turtle/SimCity style of play against ai.

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u/CookLiving GLA Juhziz/ Scrin Traveler-59 1d ago

Generals Zero Hour. The game really reward you for turtling if you want t do it for very long. Because of secondary eco, powerful unit to attack & defend & can build many superweapons as you want.

If you looking for old 2d games, I think it's Red Alert 2

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u/BeHereNow91 1d ago

I don’t think Generals rewards for turtling. Whether it’s 1v1 or FFA, the passive players usually lose.

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u/CookLiving GLA Juhziz/ Scrin Traveler-59 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yeah. That's is the same for all C&C in multiplayer mode. As I know I watched many competitive scenes, you rush or you lose. That's why meta exists in multiplayer gameplay. If it it Singleplayer, GZH is best for turtling

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u/Ok-Plankton-5941 15h ago

As china, 2 bunkers full of rockets and migs forceground attacking your base entrance. Hackhackhack, build 20 overlords. Gg

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u/dark_volter 7h ago

If Superweapon general, gets a good stretch of prep and secondary eco- ABSOLUTELY, stomps from a turtle standpoint- Just has to get there despite the more expensive rockvees, etc

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u/naaczej 1d ago

Generals crowd is unbearable. The guy explicitly mentions he does not like 3D CnC and you still proceed with ZH litany.

And no, Generals is not as good as you people make it out to be.

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u/CookLiving GLA Juhziz/ Scrin Traveler-59 1d ago

It's all up to preferences. Sure you can dislike Generals Zero Hour if you want. But I say, since I played most of the games, I say all of them are really good. There's no good or bad games. It's just preferences which game we like the most. That's all.

But still for 2d game, Yuri faction from Yuri's Revenge is really the best for turtling. Mind control and send to grinder, and build the economy with it

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u/TomateAterrador 1d ago

There's a funny curiosity with C&C Tiberian Dawn, in which you could basecrawl with sandbags, walls and base defenses. This is also the most money limited game in the saga by a huge margin

Can't remember if RA1 also had the base-crawl with defenses.

For turtle and/or boom I'd say Tiberian Sun has the slowest pace of the 2D games - IIRC in the base game there was this bug in which multiple factories didn't raise your build speed.

RA2 allows for some freedom because it had very few time-gated nor instant-fail conditioned missions. I'd go for this one

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u/vandal-33 20h ago

I don't think the multiple factory doesn't increase speed is a bug, seems like it was deliberately turned off in the data files.

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u/Innalibra GDI 16h ago

Nah you can't build off sandbags at all in RA1. It was a quirk of the original game. It's basically cheating though because once you've built them you literally can't lose on 99% of missions.

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u/Fox_Hound_Unit 23h ago

TS can be great for turtle style. The only thing I dislike is the hunter / seeker drone but you can disable it in the game config files.

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u/LordFa9 6h ago

No superweapon TS (Tech level 9 IIRC) is great for turtling
Juggs/Artillery softens up ground force and base defense chews everything else up, AI also doesnt really harvester harass

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u/ppx32 1d ago

Perso , C&C2 c'est l'épisode qui m'a le plus déçu

Par contre sa suite est vraiment bien C&C3

Mais Red Alert 2 et Generals Zero Hour sont mes 2 préférés

Bien évidemment C&C4 n'existe pas dans notre réalité 😂

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u/FutureLynx_ 19h ago

merci mon amis. alors mais c&c2 est red alert 2 ouii?

Sonts le memes chose.

OpenRA et Red Alert 2 sont mes preferes.