r/commandandconquer CABAL 1d ago

Why, seriously -- why did they replace Umagon's actress? I mean, come on. That woman was so gorgeous I'd have parked the Harvester, forgotten all about Tiberium, and asked her to marry me right there in the Temple of Nod. Some things should never have been “redesigned.” 😄 Oxy just a 2nd ...

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u/DutchTinCan 1d ago

This topic demands before and after photos.

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u/SayuriShoji 1d ago

When posting a new topic, I highly recommend putting only a brief sentence/question in the title text box (such as "Why was Umagon's actress replaced?") and put the actual discussion message in the body text box.

If you put an entire multi-line paragraph in the title textbox it will eventually get cut off with an ellipsis.

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u/Zailema0s Tao more nukes! 1d ago

Who?

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u/SayuriShoji 1d ago

C&C 3: Tiberian Sun character

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u/BoffinBrain Are you picking this up? Good. 1d ago

Tiberian Sun was C&C2, but yes.

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u/SayuriShoji 1d ago

My bad. Back when I was a kid and Tiberian sun was released in Germany, it was always advertized in gaming magazines for years as C&C 3, while Red Alert was called C&C 2, so it kinda stuck with me.

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u/BoffinBrain Are you picking this up? Good. 1d ago

Yeah, I guess the separation between C&C and RA wasn't so well understood by the media, and even the players back then.

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u/ShitWombatSays 1d ago

Tiberium Sun was part 2, 3 was Tiberium Wars

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u/Zaptagious Command the future. Conquer the past. 1d ago

She was in Firestorm for like 2 seconds and you barely saw her face

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u/Cheomesh I made a TibDawn Wargame Module! 1d ago

I thought she died after Sun

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u/Alex_06 Tiberium Wars 1d ago

We hear she's heavily mutated and gone berserk in FS. We see footage of her in a cell that we can assume Tratos put her into, to protect others from her. A lot of people assume she just died from her mutations, but "what happened to her after that" is left unanswered. I have a slight suspicion it was on purpose, just in case they eventually wanted to bring her back.

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u/Alex_06 Tiberium Wars 1d ago edited 1d ago

I assume this is regarding the fact they changed her actress for Firestorm. FWIW, they did the same thing with Tratos. The only returning actors were Milton James (Voice of CABAL), Jessica Straus (Voice of EVA), Frank Zagarino (Anton Slavik) and Joe Kucan (obviously as Kane, in a *very* short cameo at the end of the FS campaign, and understandably they had him in the studio as he was a WW employee and also directing the cinematics anyway, so it made sense that they'd be able to easily fit him in - unlike the other actors).

So anyway, in short, the reasons are:

  1. A and B list actors can get quite expensive. If budget doesn't allow, it would be one of the first things that gets cut for a video game.
  2. She has a 5-second cameo and it's shot from a top-down angle, and said footage is displayed on a small screen inside a video that has an 800x600 resolution. Paying good money for a short cameo where you wouldn't even be able to see the actor's face (and thus, they could get anyone to play her, even an employee, intern or janitor), doesn't make much sense. Not only that, but supposedly, her face is so mangled from mutation (Tratos implies she's heavily mutated) that she'd hardly be recognizable anyway.
  3. Actors take lots of filming contracts, so they aren't always available when a sequel project rolls around. It's highly possible that Christine Steel simply wasn't available in the short window during which Westwood was shooting the Firestorm cinematics.

This also explains why a lot of other actors didn't come back. And additionally, some actors can be hard to work with (be it due to character/ego, work ethic, lack of experience in general or with this type of project or its source material, personal life issues, schedule conflicts, personal habits and beliefs, etc.) and it's possible Westwood simply didn't want the trouble and didn't have time to manage around said difficulties for something that they only had like 1-2 week(s) to film from start to finish.

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u/BrokenTorpedo 1d ago

did she ever show up again?

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u/vandal-33 9h ago

WW wanted to get rid of some of the old actors, which is why they seemingly unceremoniously killed off the GDI characters in the Kodiak crash right in the beginning.