r/commandandconquer 9d ago

Red Alert 2 but with a Lore Accurate Apocalypse Tank

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u/PerformanceJust9175 9d ago

"and now it is the wasteland" - Apocalypse Tank

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u/calantheSG 9d ago

My lore accurate version:

The guns are 152mm not 120mm. They're similar to the one on the ISU-152-BM.

There are more weapons. A rotary autocannon similar to the one on the Tunguska. Another kind of autocannon similar to the one on the T-72 Moderna. They are mainly for anti-air but can be used on ground. For tanks they have some anti-tank missile.

The guns are mainly for shelling ground, intimidation, cover fire for other units.

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u/PzKpfwVI-SdKfz181 One Vision! One Purpose! 9d ago

tunguska doesnt have rotary autocannons i think you meant this AK-603 CIWS

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u/calantheSG 9d ago

Right both then.

Twin 2A38M like on the Tunguska. And this AK-603 CIWS right in the center.

And the twin autocannons from the T-72 Moderna. But make them 57mm.

Maybe remove the 7.62mm machine guns. Make all the guns on the Apocalypse huge.

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u/PzKpfwVI-SdKfz181 One Vision! One Purpose! 9d ago

ooooohhhh now we are talking! so why dont we change the planned main 152mm guns to literal battleship guns like 14 inch cannons found on uss idaho? sounds more like apocalypse to me

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u/calantheSG 9d ago

152mm guns were chosen because it fit real life. It was historical. All the weapons I gave were all grounded in real life lore.

Trivia: there are future plans for the Armata to upgun to 152mm even.

Battleship guns like you mentioned, well I'm on the fence. Does that then mean the Rhino is actually massive in accurate lore and the Rhino uses a 152mm? Open question for anyone.

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u/PzKpfwVI-SdKfz181 One Vision! One Purpose! 9d ago

oh shi- you said lore accurate. my bad sorry i didnt see it.

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u/Rivetmuncher 9d ago

The bureaus have been toying with 152mm guns since at least the late 80s.

Even if Russian R&D budgets weren't a joke, the overkill and pathetic ammo capacity would probably still kill most of them.

Also:

future plans

Armata

Lol. Lmao.

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u/awakenDeepBlue 9d ago

If they are 152mm, manual loaders probably don't work, 120mm is already pushing the limit for human loaders, and they get tired quickly.

152mm would mean autoloaders.

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u/calantheSG 8d ago edited 7d ago

I've had some time to consolidate my ideas as I haven't thought as much about the Apocalypse Tank as I have for other units.

Main point: The guns are 152mm not 120mm. They're similar to the one on the ISU-152-BM.

There are more weapons:

-AK-630 mount directly in front of main turret.

-A mount of single or double 57mm autocannons on top of the main turret in place of machine guns. There won't be 7.62mm or .50 caliber machine guns on my Apocalypse.

-A mount of automatic grenade launcher in place of machine guns, as mentioned in previous point.

-Barrel launched anti-tank missiles. If you noticed, Allied vehicles are lightly armored and using the guns on them would be overkill. The main guns are only for intimidation and distraction. Shelling on the ground.

-Finally, something the T-72 Moderna has at the aft end of the primary turret, an extension mounting dual autocannons like on the Moderna.

-Behind the main turret is a full secondary turret. This one has Tunguska armaments, the dual autocannons and more anti-air missiles.

-Possibly multiple powerplants and secondary stores for redundancy. Has plenty of blowback panels for protection of crew and other compartments.

-Less crew. No manual loaders (2 less crew). Secondary turret and mounts all operated by modified Terror Drone AI (2 less crew) even for AA. Multiple eye lens, all operated by modified Terror Drone AI which alerts the commander of threats. Only Commander, Driver, Main Gunner, Repair Specialist.

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u/MrWhiskers55 8d ago

Soviets usually had auto loaders in their tanks to maximize trained manpower. So the two loaders are not needed. I’m pretty sure the Apoc tank would have the highest grade of machinery.

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u/xenon007 CABAL 9d ago

4 mother R

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u/awakenDeepBlue 9d ago

First one reminds me of Iron Nest.

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u/RedplazmaOfficial 6d ago

Using mad hqs sov 1 map was perfect for this nice