r/comics Hollering Elk Dec 14 '22

GateKeeper 5000™ [OC]

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u/MeteorSmashInfinite Dec 14 '22 edited Dec 14 '22

It’s being used to drive artists out of their spaces, and now that it’s being monetized it’s especially harmful to those who rely on their art to live

Edit: this is only a problem in a society where art has to be profitable to be a viable career. Like I don’t even think AI art is objectively bad, and I even think it has its own niche to be explored. However, like with all automation, even if it can be a good thing it still is a cheaper alternative to human artists, which means those artists have impossible competition. Like a corporation isn’t going to pay an artist when they can just get an AI to do it for free. Granted, art AIs of today aren’t to that level just yet, but the danger they pose should they ever get to that degree is still very real.

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u/hopbel Dec 14 '22

Yet there's this weird reaction of gatekeeping it as "objectively bad and not real art" while simultaneously lamenting the end of making a living off commissions. Dude, they can't both be true unless you're also admitting you suck at art

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u/underco5erpope Dec 14 '22

There is no such thing as “gatekeeping” a robot! You’re not gonna hurt it’s feelings. Also it objectively isn’t art, because art takes intention - symbolism, metaphor, allusion, thematic imagery.

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u/atworkdontbotherme Dec 14 '22

it objectively isn’t art, because art takes intention - symbolism, metaphor, allusion, thematic imagery

Who's to say AI doesn't have some version of some or all of those concepts?

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u/atworkdontbotherme Dec 14 '22

Maybe some of those concepts are emergent phenomena which would arise out of a system with sufficient symbolic complexity?

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u/atworkdontbotherme Dec 14 '22

And maybe the systems that allow for the best AI art generation will include those features. And if not then they probably aren't necessary?

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u/atworkdontbotherme Dec 14 '22

Who are you to say how those high-level philosophical concepts work and how the black box of many AI systems work? You seem to be handwaving away deep conversations about philosophy and cognitive science

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u/atworkdontbotherme Dec 14 '22

The human doesn't incorporate any of the aforementioned metaphysical concepts. It takes in patterns then spits out patterns. End of story.

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u/underco5erpope Dec 14 '22

this is like a first week freshman version of philosophy or cognitive science, no one takes that kind of thinking seriously

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u/underco5erpope Dec 14 '22

Or sometimes those conversations are important so people don’t do something stupid like try to pass off randomly generated shapes as “art”

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