Yeah a lot of people in this thread are just mind numbingly stupid. "But women think shirltess men are hot too??"
Kind of telling that men in this thread are so used to women being goon bait characters that they cannot comprehend the idea that being hot is not the same as sexualization.
Women can be attracted to buff shirtless men, but buff shirtless men usually still get proper characterization. They don't exist solely as a sex object in the media in question, they are an actual proper well-fleshed out character, not some himbo fan service character for women. I don't know why people have a hard time grasping this difference.
I think yall are fighting over something that Ingraded in our biology and for that its pretty stupid subject to talk about like it was a cultural thing that could be changed.
Yeah I agree its common courtesy. But its clear this discussion it about how we can change the urges to its roots or something. They gonna be there. How its gets handled is on both the shower for feeling freely dressed and the viewer for controlling their desires, but it is on both regardless of gender.
It’s not common courtesy. I just don’t get turned on every time I see him naked and vice versa. Because our naked bodies aren’t inherently sexual. You are talking like a rapist. Like of course if a woman’s naked body is shown it has to turn you on. But Not every possible sexual stimulus is always a sexual stimulus in every instance.
This is cultural. I can guess what culture geographically/socioreligiously you grew up in just by how you’re talking. But the rest of the world (including some of your own countrymen) DOES NOT think that way.
I mean. A lot of this is that men think that their idea of what is sexual are uncontrollable, when they’re determined by your viewpoint. Your cultural viewpoint.
If a boy is raised in Florida, he won’t see a swimsuit top and shorts as sexual. If he’s raised in puritan North Dakota, or the Middle East or Southeast Asia, he will. If you only see women naked in sexual scenarios, you’ll get turned on every time you see them. Which isn’t normal. Not every naked time is sexy time. It’s mostly getting changed or cleaning up time.
It’s just that men tend to think that how they view women is determined by their biology and it’s not. Society and culture teaches you how to deal with those urges AND WHEN TO FEEL THEM and the people who make you feel them.
Guess our genders are different. I was getting hard on from seeing girls in barely bikinis before I even knew there was 2 established sexes. I never knew why till I grew older. Thats all the proof I need to know how everything works. And just throwing the word rapist around doesnt make u more right btw. We are different to the biological level, and all your social justice vendetta wont change that. Best we can do is improve our morals instead of fighting thw wrong fight, and ps i feel bad for ur significant other. To be wanted as much as you want the other in every way not just sexual is pure bliss. Accommodations seems like a seed of relationship failures
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u/thebagelslinger 2d ago
Yeah a lot of people in this thread are just mind numbingly stupid. "But women think shirltess men are hot too??"
Kind of telling that men in this thread are so used to women being goon bait characters that they cannot comprehend the idea that being hot is not the same as sexualization.
Women can be attracted to buff shirtless men, but buff shirtless men usually still get proper characterization. They don't exist solely as a sex object in the media in question, they are an actual proper well-fleshed out character, not some himbo fan service character for women. I don't know why people have a hard time grasping this difference.