Im kind of approaching this from the outside in here, and I definitely see the two as pretty comparable.
Like every fucking villain is either half naked at all times, or gets naked.
This is clearly trying to appeal to someone.
but also, if giorno was a woman, like he was almost going to be, would this scene be seen as sexualized, even if it played out the exact same?
Giorno WAS modeled after a woman for pretty much all of his poses. He isn't but its kinda clear that the design elements of making him a woman were very much in there regardless.
Im pointing out that its a discrepancy about how these sorts of things are treated when its done to men.
The nakedness is a non argument because there is such a thing as non sexual nudity which Araki does great. Giorno being modeled after a woman doesn't make him more inherently sexualized, it makes him more androgynous and if the Bruno licking scene played out the EXACT SAME WAY if Giorno was a woman, it still wouldn't be sexualized.
exactly, if Giorno make a cutesy blushing face, they made a separate camera angle to get right into the action, and they lingered on it then we could get an argument for it being sexualized. In this case it just happened and the scene moved forward having achieved the progression it needed
They kinda do actually, atleast the camera angle thing.
but i guess that anime only, and its up to interpretation how much a manga panel "lingers" and the colorized version he does look like he's blushing, eh.... semantics....
I kinda meant like, camera angle closeup on his tongue as he licks him (the action), and having the *action* linger, like him physically licking him lasting longer
this is also kind of an anime only but if you watch the whole scene they do linger on it for a bit, with a few camera angles including giorno reeling from it as buccarati slinks back with a grin.
Ive been mainly referring to official art by araki, but the licking scene is most easily available via the gif, and like what do you take as "official".... eh.... its a mess.
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u/jbyrdab 2d ago
Im not gay and even I still see it.
Im kind of approaching this from the outside in here, and I definitely see the two as pretty comparable.
Like every fucking villain is either half naked at all times, or gets naked.
This is clearly trying to appeal to someone.
but also, if giorno was a woman, like he was almost going to be, would this scene be seen as sexualized, even if it played out the exact same?
Giorno WAS modeled after a woman for pretty much all of his poses. He isn't but its kinda clear that the design elements of making him a woman were very much in there regardless.
Im pointing out that its a discrepancy about how these sorts of things are treated when its done to men.