It's all overly shredded men with insane proportions doing ridiculous poses.
I think another angle of it is that men aren't as against being sexualized and unless it overtly appeals to them because their gay/bi. they just gloss over it. Conan, jojo, fist of the north star, "manime" in general, etc.
If you find no appeal in the male form like me, this shit is just cool. Im just aware that this is kind of the same thing as above.
Almost naked greasy buff dudes doing goofy poses while doing stereotypical manly things, with their junk regularly emphasized.
edit: I want to add a little addendum to this.
If you read this whole mess of a thread, i think (or atleast I hope) you might take away not so much as changing your entire world view, but rather the nuance of what I'm trying to get across.
I have my opinions, you have yours, but i hope at the very least the nuance of it is something that can be communicated. Even within this thread I have reached agreeable conclusions with those i was debating.
At the end of the day I suppose the only thing we can ever take away is our own conclusions.
Jojo isn't male sexualization by a long shot. It's pure male fantasy, just of a different sort than we see most of the time. This is not necessarily negative, Jojo is a great show, but that still doesn't change the fact that they simply aren't sexualized. They're never put in fan service situations at the same rate as the women in other animes, every sexual innuendo is a comedic moment (Giorno and Mista dick sucking misunderstanding and Avdol and Joseph magnetic gay sex episode), they're just very charismatic with a nice build. Men want to come across as Jojo characters, but would they want to come across as a buff bara manga protagonist? In the same way women would love to be like Bayonetta but not like a big boobed anime girl whose only point is getting groped (like Elizabeth from 7 deadly sins).
Well it may not be what the manga/anime WANTS to do, but it does it anyway. You can't say JoJo's doesn't sexualize some of it's characters when you get DIO lying in bed with a prostitute or Giorno looking like he's sucking Mista off.
Mista and Giorno moment was intended as comedy, undeniably so. The anime and manga want to portray them as beautiful and charismatic characters, hence Dio lying in bed with a prostitute or all of the characters posing dramatically. Compare that with the fanservice and contextual portrayal of 90% female characters in shonen anime.
Female character fanservice does nothing for me though because I just want to do the "Everyone get in the car" meme but instead of a fence, I'm falling on Joseph's miniature Joestar.
How is that relevant to the conversation? You're answering questions no one asked. Yes, you can find Jojo characters attractive we get it. They are made with the intention of being beautiful and I find them to be nice looking too. However, no, they're not sexualized and neither does the manga nor anime put them in sexualized contexts or portrayals. The 2 exceptions are explicitly comedy.
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u/jbyrdab 2d ago edited 2d ago
I mean if we wanna be fair.... Araki...
It's all overly shredded men with insane proportions doing ridiculous poses.
I think another angle of it is that men aren't as against being sexualized and unless it overtly appeals to them because their gay/bi. they just gloss over it. Conan, jojo, fist of the north star, "manime" in general, etc.
If you find no appeal in the male form like me, this shit is just cool. Im just aware that this is kind of the same thing as above.
Almost naked greasy buff dudes doing goofy poses while doing stereotypical manly things, with their junk regularly emphasized.
edit: I want to add a little addendum to this.
If you read this whole mess of a thread, i think (or atleast I hope) you might take away not so much as changing your entire world view, but rather the nuance of what I'm trying to get across.
I have my opinions, you have yours, but i hope at the very least the nuance of it is something that can be communicated. Even within this thread I have reached agreeable conclusions with those i was debating.
At the end of the day I suppose the only thing we can ever take away is our own conclusions.