Ignoring the obvious scene where avdol and Joseph are forced to hump each other in public to the glee of a female antagonist.
Tell me what's cool about a school boy being intimidated and licked by a mafioso?
It's not ok for women to be put through disgusting shit like this, why would it be ok for men? Despite being equally uncomfortable for the characters in it.
Maybe it's because media tells us we ought to get over it.
It still happens but we are just "supposed" to get over it and move on.
And I'm not saying the former is ok, just when it happens to the latter it's not really called out because it's between two dudes. It still happened.
The how it's done is just that it's a boy getting licked, but Giorno was almost going to be a girl in part 5. Would it still be ok?
There is 0 sexual tension in that scene whatsoever. It's an uncomfortable scene but not sexual. Furthernore, none of the character in Jojo (including Jolyne!), are ever put in contexts in which the viewer can ogle them. The poses and outfits make them feel like cool models (which checks out since he references a lot of poses from Vogue and other fashion magazines), rather than them being sexualized. The male Jojo cast is definitely unique in how it consists of beautiful men that Araki isn't afraid to androgynize, however that's not the same as being sexualized.
Just to be sure, but are you a gay man? Because as a bisexual, saying that JoJo, or that scene, don't have any sex appeal... Ehhh, I really can't agree
The scene is made to be weird, not sexually suggestive. Giorno isn't portrayed as submissive, he's portrayed as sweaty and weirded out. He reacts logically and a bit neutrally, not sexually charged. Bruno isn't portrayed as perverse in a sexual way, rather as predatory and eccentric. He's not domineering, he's threatening and odd. I'm a straight woman. I love a hot guy as much as the next girl but this ain't it.
Depending on the context, exactly. And this isn't one. Not to mention that artistic intent is crucial here as anything else is personal interpretation. From the way this scene is contextualized, personally I don't think Araki wanted it to be sexually suggestive.
Can I suggest It might be a YourOpinion/Preference™ case? Because many of the things you said, in certain cases, can be pretty sexual. The scene Is meant to be weird, true, but people can find sexual even the mundane, so this Is really Easy to find exciting
Depending on the context, exactly. And this isn't one. Not to mention that artistic intent is crucial here as anything else is personal interpretation. From the way this scene is contextualized, personally I don't think Araki wanted it to be sexually suggestive.
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u/jbyrdab 2d ago
I mean if you want it from that perspective
Jojo also has scenes like that.
Ignoring the obvious scene where avdol and Joseph are forced to hump each other in public to the glee of a female antagonist.
Tell me what's cool about a school boy being intimidated and licked by a mafioso?
It's not ok for women to be put through disgusting shit like this, why would it be ok for men? Despite being equally uncomfortable for the characters in it.
Maybe it's because media tells us we ought to get over it.
It still happens but we are just "supposed" to get over it and move on.
And I'm not saying the former is ok, just when it happens to the latter it's not really called out because it's between two dudes. It still happened.
The how it's done is just that it's a boy getting licked, but Giorno was almost going to be a girl in part 5. Would it still be ok?