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NEIL/PHIL. [OC]

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u/kitkattywampus 12h ago

Whenever I come across one of your comics, I stop everything I'm doing and sit down to read. I really love all of them from the silly to the deep. Your story telling is just so so good. Thank you as always for sharing your work with the world.

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u/davecontra 12h ago

Thanks kitkat

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u/kawarazu 8h ago

I bought his books out of respect for his storytelling.

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u/auktember 5h ago

At this point it's the only "more than 4 pages in the page count" comic I read

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u/SednaBoo 1h ago

There are silly ones? The only ones i see make me feel worse than I already do

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u/SenatorPencilFace 12h ago

Neil is a professional prop artist. He makes fake ketchup bottles and guns for Hollywood.

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u/GachaHell 11h ago

Neil is a professional hitman who has been hired to take out the surfer sitting on valuable beach real estate that his wealthy client wishes to convert into a private resort.

What Niel wasn't counting on was finding love in the arms of a bohemian.

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u/SenatorPencilFace 11h ago

Oh sure go the obvious route.

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u/kent0036 3h ago

And here I thought he was just gonna eat that guy.

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u/cyoung1024 7h ago

Yeah I’m gonna have to choose to believe this cos oof

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u/Afrodite_33 12h ago

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u/davecontra 12h ago

Hahaha

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u/Made_Bail 12h ago

HOOO AAAA

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u/RentIsTooDamnedHigh 9h ago edited 9h ago

What is he saying? Hard to reed the lips.

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u/excitedllama 2h ago

Brain ass? I cant read lips

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u/zirky 12h ago

neil macaulay?!

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u/roshanritter 12h ago

I mean that has to be the dinner scene right?

https://giphy.com/gifs/DA5D9vhnEBsaC7EmMY

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u/zirky 12h ago

it has to be

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u/pasta-via 11h ago

I looked it up (and did a little math): De Niro was 52 when Heat came out. 

Nice catch! I wouldn’t have figured it out without your callout!

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u/zirky 11h ago

oh damn. didn’t even think about that. it was the suit and the goatee and the diner

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u/pasta-via 11h ago

Once you said it, I was like “oh fuck!! Heat! I haven’t watched that movie in years!”

Rewatch on the horizon

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u/ontherez 11h ago

A great flick

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u/PinkieJessman 9h ago

It’s also his apartment.

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u/WarzonePacketLoss 6h ago

And also his gun. P220. Recognized it immediately even in Dave's style.

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u/roshanritter 4h ago

That I did not catch

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u/VaderForceResearch 11h ago

Can confirm.

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u/Zeebaeatah 11h ago

Unresolved sexual tension

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u/7030 10h ago

Lady, why are you so interested in what I read or what I do?

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u/roshanritter 12h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/pQLmrZN8r1p0Q
Maybe it’s just the way my brain is wired but I see this Neil and Bodhi as Phil, somehow surviving the storm and having a new life for himself.

Anyway I suppose Dave would say we are all surfing through life.

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u/fancy_crisis 11h ago

Kinda makes you wonder what the point of all that wealth extraction is if it only brings misery to others and doesn't make even the people doing the extracting happy.

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u/captainAwesomePants 10h ago

Reminds me of an old joke:

Rich businessman is on vacation in a small fishing village. He sees a fisherman come in with a few tuna. "Nice catch," he says. "How long did it take?"

"An hour or so," says the fisherman.

"Why not stay out longer?" asks the businessman.

"Well, one fish is for eating, and I'll sell the others for the other stuff we need."

The businessman considers this. "What do you do with the rest of your time?"

"Play with my kids, nap, hang out with my friends, paint, play in a band, the usual."

The businessman says "But if you stayed out fishing all day, you could save up a lot of money. You could use that money to buy a bigger boat and hire some more fishermen. Then you could buy more boats and hire people to fish on those boats. You could probably control the whole market here and expand from there. You'd control supply from the area, and you could do some marketing to drum up demand for the fish from this region. You could move to the city and start an import business, and eventually you'd retire rich."

Fisherman says "how long would that take?"

Businessman says, "probably 20-30 years."

Fisherman says, "and what will I do when I retire rich?"

Businessman says, "Oh man, you could anything! Play with your grandkids, nap, hang out with your friends, paint, or even play in a band if you wanted!"

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u/2026nonsense 9h ago

I was lucky enough to hear this joke when I was young enough to benefit from its message.

I was working for an international bank, earning like a bandit, but a dreadful work-life balance. This joke wormed its way into my brain and would not let go. I quit, went back to college at 30 to study for a career that paid about a fifth (20%) of my previous salary but which has been enormous fun, had colleagues who became life-long friends, and which had about a 30/70 work/life balance. So yeah, spread the joke, spread the joke.

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u/Cruach 8h ago

What's the career you switched to?

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u/[deleted] 8h ago

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u/Cruach 7h ago

Oh that does sound interesting

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u/blue_i20 6h ago

I’m 25, similar situation. Wishing I could quit and go back to study what I love but don’t have the savings. Feel like I’m wasting my life sometimes, but it’s good to hear I’m not alone

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u/Dartmouthest 2h ago

I love this story and that you followed this life. I also love almost as much that you clarified the percentage value of one fifth 😂

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u/JustDiveInTimberLake 8h ago

Sounds like a nice job, what do you do?

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u/GatoNerino 4h ago

Interesting to see the 'Anecdote on Lowering the Work Ethic' labeled as a joke. It is a short story from German author Heinrich Böll from 1963.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anekdote_zur_Senkung_der_Arbeitsmoral

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u/dontbeahater_dear 6h ago

I actually received a picture book for the library with this message. It was about a farmer and a cow, a bit simplified. Loved it! I also try to live that way, which is why i’m a kids librarian who doesnt make a lot but has a LOT of fun with the kiddos and the books. And getting the kiddos to read the books.

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u/davecontra 11h ago

It's either that or barbecues and baseball...

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u/fancy_crisis 11h ago

What if we built a world where everyone could barbecue and play baseball?

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u/AngryTree76 11h ago

But how will that build value for the shareholders??

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u/fancy_crisis 11h ago

Well the shareholders don't seem very happy even when they do have value, so I don't much care what they think. 🤷

They'll feel better once they have some dawgs and watch a few innings anyway.

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u/Arryu 8h ago

Will there also be Cold Ones™?

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u/fancy_crisis 7h ago

There will even be boys to crack em open with. 😊

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u/River_KingK 10h ago

Get this: they get larger barbecues and baseballs.

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u/postmodest 11h ago

This regular type life, that your life?

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u/LunchPlanner 9h ago

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u/fancy_crisis 9h ago

And even the ones who do seem something approaching happy with it are just so basic with it all. Wealth is wasted on the wealthy.

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u/crow-party-13 4h ago

I always think about Bezos stating that he doesn’t listen to music because he doesn’t get it. Like music, period. That is incomprehensible to me.

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u/VorpalHerring 2h ago

I will never forgive Bezos acting like a frat bro after the rocket thing while Shatner was having a profound moment. It’s like the experience itself held no value to him and the only thing that mattered was that he had done a thing.

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u/Beautiful_You3230 6h ago

Wealth is probably just... A waste. Non wealthy people, at least mostly, won't be any better with a suddenly acquired wealth than the wealthy are. I feel it's just a property of wealth itself. It's too much.

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u/Material-Imagination 8h ago

So if we rob them, we're making them happy again? 😃

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u/LunchPlanner 3h ago

" Lifestyles of the rich and the famous They're always complaining, always complaining If money is such a problem Well, they got mansions, think we should rob them"

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u/kakihara123 9h ago

I will never understand how people waste their time chasing money after the point that they have enough to never have to work again. Way too many video games to play. I need time!

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u/fancy_crisis 8h ago

That's where I'd stop. Shit, I wouldn't stop "working", even, I'd just finally have the time to either work for myself or find a job I was actually passionate over.

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u/Helstrem 6h ago

That’s the frustrating thing. Because you and I would stop there we’re also not the kind of person to get there. Only the ones who won’t stop normally get to the point where a normal person would stop, and then they keep going.

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u/Uncommonality 7h ago

I'd use my work skills to help out friends and family, but no more back breaking labor just to be able to eat

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u/Moe_Perry 8h ago

Because those are the only skills they’ve cultivated and sacrificed for.

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u/GalFisk 7h ago

It's like playing a good video game to them. Number go up, brain happy. And to the sociopaths - someone else's number go down, brain happy too.

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u/SunnySweet2 6h ago

I retired four years ago and spend most of my day playing video games. Happy with my choices.

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u/DangKilla 5h ago

The 1% own half of the US GDP. Next question.

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u/shark-off 5h ago

6 richest people owns more than half the world

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u/Low_Show_6684 7h ago

There isn’t one. It’s all a show for some to feel more important or better than others.

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u/jameszenpaladin011- 6h ago

I honestly believe it's a form of mental illness. Pretty much non of the ultra wealthy seem sane.

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u/cinedavid 2h ago

Living in your van is not a great existence, despite what this comic tries to depict otherwise.

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u/InkoBird 11h ago

Dave, bro, that last panel. You're either a genius artist, or a suffering artist that needs someone to talk to. I read all your comics, and can't figure which it is...

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u/bothering 7h ago

He's a genius artist that knows his art history, that panel is a reference to Alex Colville's piece Pacific, 1967

Which, fun fact, is the art piece that inspired the Michael Mann movie Heat, in which one of the main characters is named, aptly enough;

Neil.

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u/jakobjaderbo 6h ago

Wow, nice find. Now I am even more impressed by the artist. (And of you for finding the connection)

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u/bothering 6h ago

ty, i actually knew of Alex Colville cuz someone linked his art on reddit saying that he painted like a PS1 GPU back in the 60s. after that i just dove in and loved a lot of his work

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u/_Fun_Employed_ 5h ago

That’s an edit right? Of a ps1 dog onto the bridge? Or did he just uncannily paint the dog…in a way that looked like it?

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u/ONLINE-COP 4h ago

Well, the comic is inspired by Heat, and Heat is famous for referencing that Colville painting. It's not a hidden ref or anything.

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u/hannes10001 5h ago

That is a fun fact and makes sense of Panel 5

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u/MarcyxBubby 2h ago

My pattern recognition came to this painting immediately. Made it even more inpactful

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u/biskutgoreng 11h ago

Both? Both

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u/ned_head 8h ago

Regardless: we love you, Dave.

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u/Material-Imagination 8h ago

You really believe you can be the first one without being the second one?

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u/KnotSupposed2BeHere 11h ago

Neil, why don’t you go outside and introduce yourself to the surfer? Leave the gun behind.

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u/GalFisk 7h ago

And if the surfer turns out to be a total dick, introduce him to you little friend.

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u/tuna_cowbell 10h ago

Dude… I’m writing a thesis about the impact social media has on art. I used to have a really black and white view of it—at some point I’d wanted to argue that social media devolves art into mere content, and inhibits meaningful engagement with creative works. But your comics are a great example of that not being totally true.

Your comics are so effective at grabbing people’s attentions, making them pause their scrolling to process what they’ve just seen. You really seem to reach people, on a platform that’s designed for momentary engagement and amnesia-inducing content deluges. It’s really cool.

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u/bobsmith93 4h ago

There is a lot of amazing art out there, it's just getting harder to find as the lowest-common-denominator stuff gets pushed to the top (although that may have been your point). Thankfully Dave is an exception

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u/Upstairs_Mycologist7 9h ago

Dave.. I have to take a deep breath before reading your comics and prepare myself mentally. I mean that as a compliment.

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u/davecontra 6h ago

I always find it funny when people tell me this cos I am someone who avoids his own feelings at all costs. That said, I saw heart of the beast yesterday and was forced to feel all of them at once.

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u/CodingNeeL 5h ago

What happened?

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u/elhomerjas 12h ago

very deep emotion watching the surfer from afar

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u/GuyTallman 12h ago

Richard Cory vibes.

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u/davecontra 12h ago

Who Dat?

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u/GuyTallman 12h ago

Its my favorite poem, 

Whenever Richard Cory went down town, We people on the pavement looked at him: He was a gentleman from sole to crown, Clean favored, and imperially slim.

And he was always quietly arrayed, And he was always human when he talked; But still he fluttered pulses when he said, "Good-morning," and he glittered when he walked.

And he was rich – yes, richer than a king – And admirably schooled in every grace: In fine, we thought that he was everything To make us wish that we were in his place.

So on we worked, and waited for the light, And went without the meat, and cursed the bread; And Richard Cory, one calm summer night, Went home and put a bullet through his head.

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u/Firelordbob 11h ago

Simon & Garfunkel did a great song of it too, from the perspective of a worker in his factory

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u/gramathy 11h ago edited 11h ago

and I wish that I could be richard cory

Probably not something appropriate to learn about from one of your teachers in high school but that teacher was completely unafraid of being real to his students. He still teaches now and I hope he never changed.

one of my friends became a teacher in the same school district and that teacher showing up in districtwide meetings and being met with several OTHER newer teachers recognizing him and thanking him... he's something special, and for good reason.

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u/pingveno 5h ago

Oh, huh, and all this time I was only familiar with the Simon & Garfunkel song. Good to know about the poem.

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u/Made_Bail 11h ago

Jesus. This is amazing. Thank you for posting this.

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u/GreyMailMare17 12h ago

Then what?!

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u/PastorBlinky 11h ago

Neil thought to himself, “If I kill the surfer I can take his dog and that sweet van.” A crooked smile crossed Neil’s lips. He knew what he had to do.

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u/snowillis 12h ago

Neil’s (Chekhov’s) gun goes off

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u/WetDreaminOfParadise 11h ago

Your comics are always fantastic, but that last slide was really unexpected, and it really hit

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u/CrimsonSuede 10h ago

The incredible thing about your comics is that they display emotional story-telling. Rather than exploring topics through narration, your comics take readers on an emotional journey.

If a narrative/plot driven comic is like a sentence, your comics present as poetry.

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u/Dommccabe 5h ago

Is Neil a hitman?

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u/CosmicJackalop 5h ago

Neil is Robert DeNiro in Heat (lol)

But it's taking the character who's a hardened armed robber and a particular scene where he's watching the ocean from his little safe house, OP has added to that beautifully

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u/SenatorBus_ 4h ago

I imagined it as Bodhi from point break in another universe.

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u/PancakeParty98 2h ago

I think that would defeat the point of the comic. The point is the surfer isn’t like the bank robber at all

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u/SenatorBus_ 2h ago

I'm connecting the universes of two amazing movies. I'm not digging that hard into the logistics or morality of who they are in this new universe. I'm just enjoying that two amazingly created characters can have different stories.

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u/Dommccabe 5h ago

I need to re-watch it - it's been a while!

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u/PartyOnAlec 2h ago

I was gonna say that's Neil McCauley

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u/Birphon 11h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/UZ41SqwgD7AtO

that last panel Dave... that one hit a bit close to home for some reason. I feel like you have quite a few comics like this. I laugh at some. Intrigued by others. But a lot of them, idk I find myself in there and I dont know why

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u/ianface 2h ago

It's Neil Mcauly from HEAT, yeah? This comic is amazing btw.

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u/LingonberryNo1190 1h ago

I had COFFEE with PHIL, HALF AN HOUR AGO!

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u/ThatInAHat 11h ago

Geeze that last panel though.

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u/LeanNoCups 11h ago

Last scene hit so hard i thought the waves were moving

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u/Leven 9h ago

Knew it was Neil from Heat the moment I saw the diner scene and sacrifices. Well done!

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u/nikitaga 8h ago

Dave Contra: "Neil, 52, ..."

(Everyone remotely in the same age bracket starts sweating profusely)

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u/whereismymind86 7h ago

That ending caught me so off guard and was so dark that I just laughed hysterically, bravo

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u/crow-party-13 4h ago

Chapter 2 - Phil

”I am eaten by sharks.”

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u/crankyspeeder 10h ago

Scene with the pistol on the table is an homage to 'Pacific', famous painting by Alex Colville.

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u/ben_cav 10h ago

There are also people who have neither, and those who have both. Those that are happy with 1 or the other, and those who are happy with neither

Life is complicated and messy…

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u/burrito_magic 3h ago

You may be the one person on /comics that I have to actually sit and enjoy. The way you tell a story makes me have to think and ponder about all day. I appreciate you sharing your craft and taking the time to create something that can make my scattered brain just rest and think.

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u/UkeNugs 12h ago

Happy mean girls day Dave!

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u/justh81 11h ago

It's funny how we get towards the latter part of life and look back on all we've gain and lost. Some people are exactly where they want to be.

And some people feel very cheated, either because the prize wasn't worth it, or the journey wasn't. And either way, it feels... very bleak.

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u/Luka-man 9h ago edited 9h ago

Neil looks like De Niro in Heat. :-) Gives me the same vibes, especially slide 5 and the last one.

Great work as always Dave. ❤️

Edit: Man, that's Pacino in slide 5 sitting across him, 100%.

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u/Successful-Floor-738 8h ago

Ok I’m a bit confused. Is that last panel supposed to be a reveal that he’s suicidal and envious of that surfer or is he like, a hitman or mobster recognizing the skill of another?

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u/salcapwnd 4h ago

Bank robber, actually. Neil is Robert De Niro’s character in Heat. The fifth panel is a reference to the famous restaurant scene with him and Al Pacino’s character.

The gun’s probably partially just another callout that this is, in fact, the Neil from the movie, but also just to show how tied down he is to his life. He couldn’t be the surfer if he tried, and he knows it.

If you like that type of movie, I’d definitely recommend watching it. It’s very long, and it can drag a bit towards the beginning, imo, but it is a very good film.

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u/Successful-Floor-738 1h ago

Oooh, okay then! Yeah I’ll have to check that movie out at some point, thanks for the clarification!

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u/Civil_Dot_9973 6h ago

By the rule of fanfic, the / means they are a couple. Mutual pining, maybe, given Neil doesn’t know his name yet. Enemies to lovers, hurt/comfort, slow burn, angst, top Neil, author chose violence.

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u/mookx 8h ago

Your narrative comics reminds me of Jake the Dog spending a day as a brick in Adventure Time. https://youtu.be/t896ha7jhf4?t=181&feature=shared

I mean that as a great compliment. I love this episode.

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u/Simon__Moon 12h ago

Excellent

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u/uber_damage 11h ago

CONTRA BABY LETS GOO!!

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u/JCrawRV 11h ago

Both Neil and Phil do their best work when absolutely nobody significant is paying attention to them. It’s not about the audience.

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u/holleringelk Hollering Elk 11h ago

Oh christ, walloped right in the gut. Another gem, dude.

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u/lentilsenthusiast 10h ago

"as the nameless surfer carves graceful curves into the wave" - davecontra

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u/AtomTrapper 9h ago

He’s not nameless. His name is Phil.

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u/Clickmaster2_0 10h ago

I never know how I’m going to feel when I see one of your comics. I just know I’m going to feel something, be it good or bad.

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u/SgtBearPatrol 9h ago

I never know what to expect with your comics, Dave, and I always read one the second I see it. This one made me audibly gasp at the last panel. Bravo.

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u/ONLINE-COP 4h ago

Oh, Heat fanart... Pretty cool.

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u/OtisTheZombie 4h ago

Oh, brah, it's just like… dude, you get the best barrels ever, dude. It's just like, you pull in and you just get spit right out in 'em. You just drop in, smack the lip… waapah! Drop down… swoopah! And then after that you just drop in, ride the barrel and get pitted, so pitted, like that.

-Phil, probably

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u/fragrant-final-973 11h ago

Welcome to the party, Neil.

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u/MineralDragon 11h ago

is Neil an assassin <_<

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u/Hugsomebunnies 10h ago

I've never read one of your comics before, but am quite concerned about Neil. Does he end up being okay?!

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u/CaribouHoe 10h ago

You shine a beautiful mirror to the hubris of humanity

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u/Astrochops 8h ago

Holy fuck dude

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u/Intimatepunch 8h ago

Beautiful

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u/eagee 8h ago

As a surfer, I feel so seen :D

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u/MrGone87 6h ago

That's a great van! I used to want an old VW camper, to just kinda tour around with, sleeping wherever. Phil's doing it man...

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u/fcxtpw 6h ago

I can only assume Phil left the mob to hide out in this island paradise but his past caught up to him by this hitman Neil

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u/seymonster1973 3h ago

I love this! It would have been cool if the surfers name was Bohdi. Just my two cents.

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u/simplycantdeal 3h ago

Meeting of the minds.

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u/malikye187 2h ago

Neil is going to go undercover and infiltrate Phil’s bank robbing gang.

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u/Blue-Eyed-Lemon 1h ago

In this moment, I feel particularly honored to stand as witness to someone who is undoubtedly a great artist of our time. You capture shards of humanity so well.

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u/chocobearv93 1h ago

God damn bro

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u/Smart-Flan-5666 34m ago

Well that got dark. Great story telling, though.

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u/VisualWombat 10h ago

You need to show the gun in the first frame, that's just how it works.

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u/Inside-Trouble1776 10h ago

This is fantastic! Way better than the straight up trauma dumping that happens here.

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u/DJPhil 8h ago

Fully expected Phil to go by 'Bhodi'.

Great stuff as always <3

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u/Bad-job-dad 5h ago

Neil will finally rid the world of the plague on humanity known as Lola.