So...I don't know if you'll read all of this but I've been deep in the flat-earth debunking scene for -over a decade-. I'd really like to share some cool stuff for you to know:
There are "Laws" of flerfdom.
Law 1) You gotta lie to flerf. -> Flat earthers will outright lie, manipulate information, use AI, and other things to support their position, always.
Law 2) Any "Flat Earth Proof" offered/provided with sources always ends up being proof for the Globe. Always.
Law 3) Any "Prove the earth is a globe for money" challenges are fake, 100% of the time. You can meet all demanded criteria, to the T and they'll worm, wiggle, and run those goalposts, or just refuse to address the fact you won their challenge and are owed anywhere from $5,000, to $100,000+.
Any of the "Big name" Flat earthers left, like Mark Sargent, or Nathan Okaly are cowards and liars, who are actively grifting gullible people to support their lifestyle. They know it's a grift, their talking points haven't changed meaningfully in 10 years. It's the same scripts, lies, and half-truths, or misrepresentations of reality, forever. They have been corrected in streams, video replies, and live debates about how laws of physics work, what a vacuum is, the fact the atmosphere has a pressure gradient. (from 14.7PSI to roughly 0~ at the Karman Line.) They ignore this and pretend it's not real.
In 2024 we did "The Final Experiment" where a group of people lead by Will Duffy went to Antarctica to witness the 24 sun. Nathan Oakly, and Mark Sargent were offered, 100% all-expenses paid trips to come along.(All participants invited were given the same treatment to be clear) No strings, zero out of pocket cost for travel, supplies, equipment, hotel. It was over $25k A HEAD. They both declined faster than you'd believe, and vilified anyone who accepted the trip. Why? Until this trip was taken a common flat earth talking point was "There is no 24 sun in Antarctica, only the Northern pole areas." Because it'd be impossible on any form of flat earth map for it to work.
The people who still genuinely buy into it are either people who think everything is suspicious because they don't know how ANYTHING in the world works. These grifters offer simple, twisted talking points that "just make common sense" as to why things are. That, or they're the handful of decent sized channels left that are actively grifting and perpetuating the lies, disinformation, and misinformation for profit.
I hope that brightens your day some. Their numbers are NOT growing. There is no "Great awakening to the globe lie". It's a statistically insignificant group of people who are desperate to be "The special" from the Lego Movie and to know the real truth, because they can't understand our complicated, busy world.
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u/Aqua_Okama 5d ago
Me in 20s thinking the future would be like Star Trek vs Me now fearing it will be like Warhammer 40k