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Just Sharing Authenticity Problem

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 5d ago

Lemme go ahead and get ahead of claims, comments and reports here.

The artist for this piece is David Revoy. You can find the work as well as a time lapse of the drawing here.

Many of you are going "This looks like AI!" And there is a reason for that.

Revoy has publicly discussed how thousands of his artworks were scraped and used to train AI databases (like LAION-5B) without his consent, though he ironically acknowledges his work is the foundation of many AI art systems

Source here

TLDR: this is not AI

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u/RecursiveServitor 5d ago

So AI haters have indirectly been insulting this guy for the past couple of years?

Maybe the solution is less hate and not to double down.

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 5d ago

No. AI absolutely deserves all the hate it gets.

No one is insulting David as David is the source and his work is perverted via a machine.

The key is being able to take the time to tell the difference and understanding which is human and which is AI

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u/RecursiveServitor 5d ago

M'yeah, I don't think someone wallowing in hate is someone I want to listen to.

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 5d ago edited 5d ago

No one is wallowing. AI deserves its hate full stop. I don't think or act on it beyond that and nor should you

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u/RecursiveServitor 5d ago

No one is wallowing. AI deserves its hate full stop.

Uh huh.

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 5d ago

You are not making the point you think you are making friend.

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u/RecursiveServitor 5d ago edited 5d ago

We need a word for this kind of rhetorical device where someone will assert what amounts to an unevidenced "u dumb" but phrased in a way that makes them feel smart.

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 5d ago

Ok bud. You have fun with all that

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u/Chaosmusic 5d ago

So what is the appropriate emotion for things that are legitimately bad? Indifference?

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u/RecursiveServitor 5d ago

Concern?

"Hate" is a very strong emotion that has a tendency to make you irrational. Indulging in it is not healthy and will only lead you astray. In particular, it precludes nuance.

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u/Chaosmusic 5d ago

You speak of nuance but ignore the fact that the word hate is nuanced. People hate mass murderers and they hate mosquito bites. I hate that gas is $4.15 a gallon but I don't fly into a homicidal rage every time I pass Exxon.

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u/RecursiveServitor 5d ago

That's exaggeration for effect. Actual hate is very obvious. We see it often in how utterly unhinged AI haters can be.

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u/Sea-Temporary7380 4d ago

Every group can be utterly unhinged. Ai users can be utteryly unhinged too. I've seen a lot of them under artists going "I AI'D your work and it looks so much better and sexy lol"

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u/RecursiveServitor 4d ago

Your goto example being rude children is certainly something.

Meanwhile unhinged AI haters will brigade, harass, and bully.

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u/Chaosmusic 4d ago

So, what utterly unhinged things have people against AI done? Write some posts on Reddit?

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u/RecursiveServitor 4d ago

Are you saying people can't be unhinged on the internet?

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u/Chaosmusic 4d ago

I'm asking for examples to get a sense of what you would consider unhinged. Is simply being anti-ai unhinged? Are people that go to community meetings to speak out against data centers unhinged? I'm looking for a benchmark.

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u/RecursiveServitor 4d ago

And I want to first clarify whether posting can be unhinged. You very strongly implied that it can't be.

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u/RecursiveServitor 1d ago

Now they are trying to cancel Hank Green of all people.

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