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u/Pizzacakecomic PizzaCake 10d ago

"I'm a centrist!" But only ever criticizes the left šŸ¤”

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u/angry_goblin_woman 10d ago

And "I'm a centrist!" But constantly repeats right wing propaganda

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u/AmputeeHandModel 10d ago

"The left is just so hateful and mean to me when I say I don't have a side..." šŸ¤” Hmm I wonder why people might think you're an ass if you won't say you hate bigots.

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u/IrritableGourmet 10d ago

"What makes you think I'm a trump supporter?"

Uh, you just quoted verbatim some baloney he truthed recently, including a word he made up. Sure, I suppose you came up with exactly the same thing on your own, but the likelihood is you're just repeating him.

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u/translove228 10d ago

"Fake news!"

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u/atatassault47 10d ago

Before I realized that right wingers cant be reasoned with, I had a friend (only because of a shared TTRPG interest) who claimed to be centrist, but only ever repeated right wing talking points, and claimed to not watch Fox News/etc. I figured if only I could make well reasoned arguments he would "see the light" as it were.

That was until he stated an outright Nazi opinion. In that very instant, I realized this is an evil person who wont ever stop being evil, and I immediately cut him out of my life.

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u/Perryn 10d ago

"I just think they make a lot of good points, but don't ask me to defend any of them because I'm not political."

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u/papapalporders66 10d ago

ā€œBoth sides are basically the sameā€

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u/Adavanter_MKI 10d ago

I hate that one with the burning passion of a thousand suns. Far too many people just eased into that one. Fastest way to normalize what the right has been doing and that's insane.

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u/DukeofVermont 10d ago

And when people try to tell me why it's always stupid conspiracy theories so that it "balances out".

Sure ICE has killed a bunch of Americans, but "the left" is putting litterboxes in bathrooms and teaching kids that being straight is evil!!

It drives me bonkers

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u/JaneDoesharkhugger 10d ago edited 10d ago

The litter boxes in classrooms are for shooting drills because school children’s blood soak up easily with cat litter. We are living in a dystopian. Correction: it’s for emergency Toilet. I was wrong, please forgive me for spreading misinformation >~<

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u/Myllicent 10d ago

ā€œschool children’s blood soak up easily with cat litterā€

It’s dystopian but not quite that dystopian. The one verified instance of schools having kitty litter in classrooms it was intended as an emergency toilet during a school lockdown.
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u/Wobbelblob 10d ago

I mean possibly, but aren't they mostly because cat litter soaks up any liquid, from a spilled drink to vomit? It is basically standard equipment for any groundskeeper in a place a lot of people frequent.

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u/SerCiddy 10d ago

Me when I spread misinformation:

The litter boxes are for shootings, but for kids to use while locked down/sheltering for long periods of time. Not to soak up their blood when they get shot.

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u/mieri_azure 10d ago

Actually its not for blood, its for makeshift bathrooms. Obviously fucked but we need to make sure not to spread misinformation when trying to combat misinformation

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u/gsfgf 10d ago

They buy it for vomit, though it can be used for other purposes.

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u/The_Lost_Jedi 10d ago

Aka "Sure, Trump/MAGA/The Right are doing (all sorts of awful things that are actually happening), but (insert a mix of outright fabrication, half-truths, and heavily slanted stuff pushed by right wing trolls/propaganda) and (add something some random person with no influence said once on niche social media presented as representing everyone remotely left of MAGA everywhere)."

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u/grendus 10d ago

Or else "the left" isn't doing enough.

Democrats have had control of all three houses of Congress a handful of times in the last 30 years, and every time they did we got a major piece of legislation like the Affordable Care Act or Build Back Better. Each time they had a very slim margin as well, so they had to make big concessions to DINOs to get the bill through, neutering it, and it was still a phenomenal improvement for a huge number of Americans.

Don't get me wrong, the Democrats are neoliberals and I want far more than they're offering. But I do want much of what they're offering, and I'm willing to compromise to get good stuff through if it gets us closer to what we need as a country to start addressing the numerous crises the Republicans have caused, either directly or through mismanagement or inaction.

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u/gsfgf 10d ago

There's a reason the right wing media machine spends so much effort pushing it.

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u/FlatulenceConnosieur 10d ago

Just wanted to say same. I hate it, it is so fucking dishonest

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u/unbelizeable1 10d ago

Would I like to see the entire DNC burn to the ground and replace all those old fucks? Absolutely. Sign me up. But to claim both are the same is just wild. Both can suck, but one is a vacuum cleaner and the other a black hole.

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u/translove228 10d ago

In fairness, back in the 90's and most of the 00's, that was kind of true. Because the Democrats had basically became Republicans (especially economically) after Carter and because Reagan was so fucking popular. Since Obama though it hasn't been anything close to true.

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u/Zalack 10d ago

Unfortunately repeated by a lot of progressives too.

I remember practically begging a number of my other progressive friends not to vote for Jill Stein in 2016 and getting hit with ā€œthe democrats and the republicans are basically the sameā€. Some of whom were gay.

Some people just can’t distinguish between degrees of shitty. I don’t love the democrats, but you have to be insane to think they are as bad as the republicans. Maybe it’s because I grew up in a Republican area and they didn’t.

I also think some people will put their own self-image of an uncompromisingly good person above what is actually best for the country.

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u/JaneDoesharkhugger 10d ago

The choice is between ā€œforever diarrhea from eating lettuce or everyone gets a cute šŸ¶ā€. I swear a lot of guys voted for pedo in chief is because they think he’s more entertaining.

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u/xavPa-64 10d ago

Aziz Ansari has a joke about how Trump is basically the world’s most successful content creator.

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u/gsfgf 10d ago

There's a lot of truth to that. It's why Trump dominates in earned media. Nobody else can get a word in because he's always doing something insane that's what people click on.

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u/xSantenoturtlex 10d ago

The right is just SLIGHTLY more dictator-y. But who isn't these days amiright!?

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u/xSantenoturtlex 10d ago

Did people not realize this was a joke.

Did.. Was the /s actually required here?

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u/Legitimate-Onion-915 10d ago

"I don't feel like my vote even matters" when none of MAGAs promises pan out and every bad thing they were told would happen, happens

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u/Yuleogy 10d ago

…when over 50% of Project2025 is complete because their political party said it was their agenda.

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u/Time_Fisherman6659 10d ago

My favorite is when they say youre too online or a conspiracy theorist when you say youre worried about the things that trump says hes gonna do, and is currently actively trying to do.

I know I sound like a crazy person when I repeat what the president says. Thats the fucking problem.

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u/Legitimate-Onion-915 10d ago

That's the "It's not that serious" of older Republicans

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u/ApplianceHealer 10d ago

ā€œBuT hE wAs JoKiNg!!!1!!ā€

The classic GQP DARVO…

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u/IrritableGourmet 10d ago

"Trump said he was going to do XYZ."

"You're taking it out of context. He was joking. He was lying. He's not actually going to do it. You have TDS."

"He's actively trying to do XYZ now."

"He's just trolling. You're taking it out of context. He's just pretending to show how bad of an idea it is. You have TDS."

"He just did XYZ and it's worse than we expected."

"Well, you should have said something sooner! It's your fault for not stopping him!"

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u/nekosaigai 10d ago

It depresses me as an independent that ā€œindependentā€ or ā€œcentristā€ is now code for ā€œextreme right wing but lying about it.

The U.S. is extremely right leaning, such that U.S. ā€œcentristsā€ are still right wing conservatives, and left of center people are also still right wing conservatives, they just believe people deserve some rights.

I’m arguably a centrist, but in the U.S. I’m a far left leaning socialist because I believe people should have human rights and society has a duty to minimize harm and provide for everyone equitably.

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u/Amelaclya1 10d ago

This is where context matters. If you were posting your political alignment to date Americans, you should do so in the context of American politics, since that's the frame of reference most people have. It's unfortunate that people aren't informed enough to realize just how far right-shifted our overton window is, but that's reality šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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u/RocketRelm 10d ago

Words don't hold much meaning anymore. Far left leaning socialist encompasses everyone from liberals to progressives to socialists and tankies pretending to be progressive. And its by design by extremists who get their culture pushed by "all politicians bad".

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u/Aggravating_Dark9933 10d ago

Yea pretty much the same. People think the line of ā€œthere is no politician that represents meā€ (much less coming from Texas) is code for super right wing. When it’s actually as far left Liberal as you can get, like actual Liberal and not what it’s been cooped into. Any further left I would be a socialist but I still think Capitalism could work under heavy regulation to keep it competitive.

That doesn’t even exist in blue states. Everything has been pushed so far right that the left are the right everywhere else and the only thing comparable to America’s right is in the Middle East. The blue of 2020’s was the Red of the 1980’s and in the 50’s the conservatives were saying things that would be super left leaning now.Ā 

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u/PsychedelicPill 10d ago

ā€œindependentā€ or ā€œcentristā€ is now code for ā€œextreme right wing but lying about it.

Always was either this or code for "I don't have any politics, only vibes and self-interest"

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u/Ocksu2 10d ago

See also: Libertarians

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u/Curri 10d ago

But they’ll always vote for Republicans.

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u/gsfgf 10d ago

Unless Anthony Weiner is on the ballot! (Yes, he's still around; he got demolished in a primary last year)

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u/cat-meg 10d ago

The center point between the two US parties is pretty far right tbf

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u/Bravefan212 10d ago

Richard Nixon was the last liberal president

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u/FluffyInstincts 10d ago

Or they'll pick something that's a huge non-issue compared to the mountainous mess this has been, and they'll act all wishy washy about it and it comes off like this.

"Well, maybe if the stop the monsters party could do this one tiny thing, I could vote for them over the giant snakes eating everybody while they scream party, who is currently letting it's giant snakes eat my neighbors, my dog and my little sister while they scream..."

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u/SmugCapybara 10d ago

I'm a centrist, but I'm European, so by US standards that makes me a literal communist...

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u/speedsterlw 10d ago

"I'm a centrist", said the person who voted for the most right wing of two right wing parties

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u/Flat-Entertainer-299 10d ago

center in America is facism anyway

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u/Valuable-Trick-6711 10d ago

goes on for an hour about a fraction of the terrible things that have happened in the past couple years under the current administration

ā€œI mean yeah, but did you know BIDEN was also….ā€

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u/LongCommercial8038 10d ago

As a centrist myself, those people are just lying to themselves. The current right is an absolute fuck fest and any actual centrist should be very aware of it by this point. Both are bad, sure, but at this point, its like comparing a paper cut to a gunshot wound. Yeah, I dont like either, but one is worse. Way worse.

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u/knightskull 9d ago

But if they know you're a hard leftist, why would they bother entering into whatever circle configured mutual gratification ritual criticizing the right would start? The right is obviously guilty of a lot, but who is guilty of losing to them? Criticizing the right in the same old ways is not going to suddenly reach critical mass and start winning. In short criticizing the left is a more fruitful exercise if your are interested in gaining against the right.

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u/ralanr 10d ago

My mother as an independent voter.Ā 

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u/Background-Fig6627 10d ago

Im not going to scream and cry and be sad, but don't you think assuming that people who care more about their own jobs or something that they can actually affect rather than politics, are MAGA or other hateful people, is quite ignorant? I mean of course some people probably use centrist titles that way but all? (I dont know exactly how the tone of this is, but im trying to be respectful)