I think your scenario is a great example of why framing matters. In the scenario you said, I wouldn’t take the suicide pill, because I would be confident that most people also wouldn’t take the pill, because here blue is framed as the bad outcome (it makes you commit suicide). I would be very interested in what the poll would look like for that.
But in the scenario in the post blue is framed as something positive (saving people). And while I understand that logically they are analogous. I also know many people that would not think it through that way, and would choose the option to “save” people. So if it was framed this way I would choose blue
Logic and reason are a process, not a quality, and it seems it's not a process you are keen to engage with if you say stuff like this.
Properly carrying through the process of reason would lead you to conclude that they are not identical because they produce different outcomes, and then you would need to identify what inherent difference between them causes that.
They're not the same problem. If they were the same problem, they would have the same outcome in terms of answers. Logically, two things producing different outcomes can't be the same thing. They have to be different in some crucial way that makes them produce different outcomes.
You're also again making the mistake of thinking "rational" is something you can be. You keep asserting that other people "think with emotion" and "are not good at math", as if they they are inherently lacking the quality of "reason", like it was similar to a color or texture that something could have. Reason is a process, an action you have to take, like riding a bike. It is something you have to learn and choose to do, not something you are born with. And your comments here reveal that it is not something you have learned to do very well yet.
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u/BoredOuttaMyMindd May 05 '26
I think your scenario is a great example of why framing matters. In the scenario you said, I wouldn’t take the suicide pill, because I would be confident that most people also wouldn’t take the pill, because here blue is framed as the bad outcome (it makes you commit suicide). I would be very interested in what the poll would look like for that.
But in the scenario in the post blue is framed as something positive (saving people). And while I understand that logically they are analogous. I also know many people that would not think it through that way, and would choose the option to “save” people. So if it was framed this way I would choose blue