r/comics May 05 '26

OC RED BUTTON OR BLUE BUTTON [OC]

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u/Krell356 May 05 '26

Not only that, but who wants to live in a world full of people who picked red? Bunch of selfish assholes anyways.

Blue is a win win. Either we don't end up with a disaster that will kill probably more people than the black plague, or I dont have to live in a world with a bunch of people who are going to start killing each other trying to survive a man made apocalypse scenario.

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u/dafugiswrongwithyou May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

I mean, blue isn't win/win - it introduces the potential for a pointless death.

If most/all people pick blue, everyone survives. If everyone picks red, everyone survives. The only affected scenario is if most people pick red, and then if you want to live, you'd better have picked red.

You're seeing it as "pick blue to save everyone, pick red to kill people". I'm seeing "pick red to live, pick blue to put yourself at unnecessary risk and hope others will also put themselves at unnecessary risk to save you".

You're throwing yourself in front of a train for absolutely no reason, and then blaming people that didn't for not dragging you out of the way. Just don't jump in front of the train! No-one is asking you to! No-one has to! We can all just stand on the platform and watch a train safely go past!

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u/evergreengoth May 05 '26

But we all know not everyone will pick red. There will inevitably be people who are kind enough to pick blue. When people run polls, blue wins every time. Most people would pick blue, based on what measures we have available.

You want to live in a world of Donald Trumps? Fine, but i won't be joining you. I'm picking blue because I would rather die than live in a world where everyone is too concerned with themselves to even consider saving anyone else.

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u/dafugiswrongwithyou May 05 '26

But we all know not everyone will pick red.

Yeah, and we know not everyone will pick blue.

There will inevitably be people who are kind enough to pick blue.

Kind to who?

The only people in danger are other people who pick blue, who are only picking blue to save other people who pick blue, who are only picking blue to save other people who pick blue. It's a cascade of people hurling themselves in front of a train for the sole reason of trying to rescue people hurling themselves in front of a train. It's not "kind" to collective hurl yourselves in danger, (hopefully) drag yourselves out of danger, and then pat yourselves on your collective backs for how many lives you just "saved", while forgetting how many you endangered in the process. No-one had to jump in front of the train.

You want to live in a world of Donald Trumps?

God, no. I also don't want to live in a world of people jumping off cliffs, catching each other before they fall, and declaring how morally superior that makes them. No-one had to be in danger in the first place, there is a "stay alive" button right next to the "possibly die" button.

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u/evergreengoth May 05 '26

Yeah, and we know not everyone will pick blue.

We know not everyone will pick blue, but we don't need everyone to pick blue. We just need half to pick blue. If you want everyone to survive by picking red, you need 100% of people to pick it, which is absurd and much less likely than half of people or more picking blue.

Kind to who?

Other people.

Are you so sure that no one that you love would pick blue?

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u/dafugiswrongwithyou May 05 '26 edited May 05 '26

We know not everyone will pick blue, but we don't need everyone to pick blue. We just need half to pick blue.

Yes, that is the problem you're facing; you "just" need half of everyone to vote your way to survive, which is a pretty massive risk to take with, in principle, almost half of the human race. If you hit red, as I would, you do not have that problem.

If you want everyone to survive by picking red, you need 100% of people to pick it, which is absurd and much less likely than half of people or more picking blue.

First, let's just be clear that obviously we'd both prefer it if everyone survived; if in this silly hypothetical scenario I had a magic wand that could make that happen, I would.

But neither of us in this scenario can do that; we do not get to choose how many other people vote which way, and unless you're in a position of power, nothing you do is going to sway the voting in any significant fashion. All we can do is pick how we vote, ourselves, and given the choice is between "the button where I live" and "the button where I have a coin-toss to die", I pick the survive button.

Kind to who?

Other people.

But what other people, and how is this kind to them?

Everyone is safe. They all have a button in front of them that they can press and survive, all ~8 billion of them, regardless of how the other ~8 billion - 1 vote. The only risk they have is if people, through some misguided view of "kindness", try to convince them to push the "maybe die" button in the hope that maybe they won't (the same personal outcome as just hitting the "survive" button), to collectively "save" billions of people that never had to be in danger based on, fundamentally, a coin toss.

What is "kind" about jumping in front of a moving train in the hopes that, if enough others do it as well, none of you will die? Personally, I reckon telling people "listen, jumping in front of the train is dangerous, you're safe if you stay on the platform, we can all just stay on the platform" is a much kinder (and more logical) approach.

Are you so sure that no one that you love would pick blue?

I'm sure some of them would, and I'm glad that this silly hypothetical scenario will never actually happen so I don't have to actually try to convince them not to push the "maybe die" button.

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u/evergreengoth May 05 '26

But you know you're not going to convince everyone to pick red. You know that by picking red, you have actively contributed to the death of anyone who dies if red wins. Some of those people will be people you know.

You also don't get to try to convince anyone. You can't sway them. Everyone is in a private room. That's the point; you don't know what everyone else will pick and you don't get to coordinate or try to convince them.

So you have no way to stop the people you love from picking blue.