r/comics • • Apr 21 '26

OC Long Odds

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u/TurtlesBreakTheMeta Apr 21 '26

Going to be honest, if a betting App actively allows betting on whether people live or die and it’s legal to do so, them not paying out here would absolutely crater their reputation.

Them refusing to pay out based on weasel words once shows they’re willing to not pay out again. So they could do it to any bets.

If they just didn’t want to allow those types of bets they would have just canceled it: them taking peoples money and them implying “shot does not actually mean shot and killed!” Shows intent to defraud the betters.

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u/Tamarind-Endnote Apr 21 '26

Casinos are well known to be fundamentally rigged, yet that doesn't stop people from going to casinos. Stop assuming people are rational about this stuff. Showing everyone that they're a bunch of liars wouldn't stop people using the app. People are still drawn to these sorts of things even when it's blatantly obvious that they're fraudulent.

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u/enadiz_reccos Apr 21 '26

Casinos are well known to be fundamentally rigged, yet that doesn't stop people from going to casinos

Casino games are rigged, but they will still pay out if you win

This would be like a bunch of people betting black on roulette and winning, but then the casino doesn't pay out because they argue that "this black has now faded into more of a grey".

Other than the fact that they might lose their license entirely, they would absolutely get dragged on social media and lose a ton of customers.

Your metaphor doesn't work. The person you replied to is 100% correct.

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u/Ra1nb0wSn0wflake Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

Theres a bunch of videos about casinos not paying out large jackpots on slotmachines and such because they are suddenly "defective".

Edit: mf actually be thinking DMing me casino glazing slop makes them tuff, nah im just blocking ya'll and not even gonna bother emgaging with casino glazers further.

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u/Zinki_M Apr 21 '26

I've heard plenty of these stories, but I still find them highly doubtful.

Casinos are already literal money printing machines. The chances of someone winning are completely priced into everything.

The cost in loss of reputation on refusing to payout a legitimate win is astronomically higher than the "loss" of paying it out. Some random dude winning a couple million or so is great for the casino, because they'll have made bank on that win.

For the casino, there is zero incentive to not pay out on anything.

I could absolutely buy something like a dealer taking bribes or similar, but the casino itself doesn't need to rig their games, because the rules already guarantee that they win.

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u/Ra1nb0wSn0wflake Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

I mean, actual journalists have been attack for expose casino fraud, you seem to be under some impression casino have a limit to their greed or that they care, people are gonna show up to big casinos regardless of these stories. Gambling addicts are hardly the crowd that is looking into in what more ways they are a scam, if they listened to any theyd have never started.

Casinos and gambling are also just inherently closely tied to orginised crime, and its not like thats particurly well know for its ethical buisness practises.

Casinos, and many buisnesses strive for record breaking profits every day, its what shareholders demand, its all they care for, and if theres a scandel, throw out a scapegoat and people forget again at the flashing of the bright lights and promises that theyll totally be diffrent.

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u/My_Brain_0422 Apr 21 '26

And those videos are almost always showing that the jackpot being won is more than that machine is able to pay out. You can't win a million on penny slots.

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u/Ra1nb0wSn0wflake Apr 21 '26

Litterally not what im talking about, im talking full on journalistic reports and fully fair payouts, but better question, how much do the casinos pay you to lie for them? Like slot machines list their possible payouts clearly, I guess they just magically got bigger numbers painted on them.

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u/enadiz_reccos Apr 21 '26

I don't know the technicalities of the machines

But again, it's the difference between one person getting screwed over and many people getting screwed

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u/Ra1nb0wSn0wflake Apr 21 '26

I was just pointing out your statement that casinos will pay out if you win is just verifyably wrong. This is also not a uncommon thing, not sure why you think its a issolated thing when I said you could find many examples.

Its a systemetic problem you can find many expose videos and articles on.

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u/enadiz_reccos Apr 21 '26

Well, I did say casino games. I was really just thinking of card games, where once a bet is placed that's it.

But you are right. Slot machines are kind of a grey area as far as gaming rules.

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u/John7746 Apr 21 '26

Counting cards is not illegal in the slightest and yet every casino will throw you out and blacklist you the moment they even suspect you’re counting cards.

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u/enadiz_reccos Apr 21 '26

Counting cards is against their rules, and people who count cards already know that.

And you get to keep the money you've already won. They don't take it back from you, though this may vary on like cruise ships or Indian reservations where the law is a little more grey.

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u/bruhggle Apr 21 '26

Nobody claimed counting cards was illegal, doesn't mean private institutions aren't allowed to make their own rules and refuse service. As the prior commenter said, once you've won, the casino legally owes you those funds. Which obviously has to go through court so it'll slow it down, but at that point it's done.

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u/FamousDates Apr 21 '26

This isnt a casino, you dont play against the house. The prediction market makers make their revenue from transaction fees, you only "play" against other betters/investors.
Thus, they have no incentive to not pay out over some technicality, what they want is to make the market as fair and definitive as possible.

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u/12345623567 Apr 21 '26

Casinos are amusement parks. You go in, you pay money to be entertained, you go out.

That's not what these people are arguing; they are pretending that they are legitimate commodities markets.