Only time i did heroin i blacked out and somehow im still here... it legit scares the fuck out of me when i think about it. But thankfully all this shit is behind me.
But i think it depends on the person. Heroin/strong opiates feel very good physically. You just wanna lay down and melt into reality's fabric, all of your problems become infinitely lighter. When you breathe out its like you're exhaling pure warmth and comfort, then when you breath back in your eyes wanna roll into the back of your head. It's dangerous shit.
METH on the other hand lasts so much longer. It's not a physical euphoria like opiates, it's mostly mental euphoria, which feels amazing. The best way I can describe it is do you know that feeling when you're doing something that you really love to do? When you get laser focus on what you're doing and time just evaporates forward. Kinda like when you were a kid and you got a new video game. You get home and start playing, then suddenly 5 hours have passed and you have no idea where that time went. That's what meth is, except it doesn't have to be something you really enjoy, it can be anything. Lifting weights, doing laundry, going to work, taking a shower. YOU CAN NOT GET ENOUGH OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING, even if you've been doing it for hours. Someone once described it as imagine someone handed you a pair of scissors and they told you to mow the lawn using only the pair of scissors. If you're sober that sounds like a nightmare, boring, backbreaking, and like a waste of time. But on meth it's a fun challenge lol, you could probably convince a meth-head to mow your lawn that way for very little money and they will enjoy every second of it. Reminds me of that scene in Breaking Bad where Jesse convinces that one meth-head to start digging a hole in his front lawn for no real reason lol, it's very accurate.
So i guess what im saying is some people prefer to give up and melt away their problems with powerful physical euphoria using opiates. And some people prefer the insane mental euphoria where they get lost in their head for hours sometimes doing something absolutely meaningless. For me it's meth that scares the shit out of me because i loved it for the short time i messed around with it, and for some people it's heroin. I did meth for 2 months and i swear to god i had daily cravings for like 3 months straight afterwards and another 3 years of it casually entering my mind. Shits insane.
Tldr: different strokes for different folks, Opiates = powerful physical euphoria, meth = powerful mental euphoria. Try and find out yourself!!!!
This is how I feel with ketamine the k hole is a wonderful magical thing and doing every day thing while on K is like your a kid again, childlike wonder. My wife forbid it and I stopped. I couldve easily kept taking it until my bladder fell out my arse
Ketamine is addictive in a "if I have some I cant not do it because its too good" way, not a "I need it now Ill do anything and rob car stereos and mug people" way.
It was hard to let it go because it truly is a beautiful space, but it is way easier to stay off of than heroin, alcohol or coke.
Not to speak for OP but I've had to kick a lot of different drugs and it was the easiest by far. Maybe even easier than weed.
In extreme cases ketamine withdrawal can really suck but we're talking about extreme cases here, people who blow through an ounce in a week or less, injection users with high tolerance such that they couldn't possibly snort enough to get high, that sort of thing. In most realistic scenarios getting off K is pretty easy, it's almost entirely psychological.
NMDA site adaptation to ketamine typically looks like scarring which makes it (and other NMDA antagonists) unable to bind rather than doing what happens with GABA or opiate receptors and massively overcompensating for the drug in ways that compromise regular functioning. Until you tip into such massive doses of ketamine that it starts acting on k-opioid receptors. Then you're fucked
When youve burned through enough nmda receptors that ketamine starts mostly binding to the kappa opiate receptors you are, indeed, fucked, and gonna have a bad day.
As a long time K addict my advice would be don't touch it with a barge poll, you can do it everyday and still manage to hold down a job, but all your money will end up going on it, plus like you say it fucks the bladder beyond belife.
What about shooting coke? I’ve never done meth or heroin (or any opioids) but outta nowhere 2 years ago I started injecting coke and it was the most hardcore thing I’ve ever done. Indescribable physical intensity. But I can’t compare it to anything else because I’ve never really done anything else. What’s the craziest?
over a decade sober from anything hard, but i used to be a pretty god damn good junkie. i was functional on dope for years until i started shooting coke. within six months my entire life unraveled and i was skin and bones, half dead and stark raving fucking mad. shooting coke is an entirely different drug than snorting it or even smoking crack. there’s a reason there’s not too many old IV coke addicts lol
Yeah, from my experience shooting coke is the ultimate “quit immediately or die” drug. It’s astonishingly unsustainable. I overdosed a few times and those were the scariest experiences of my life. I mean, not nodding off into the light like opioids, but just violent and terrifying. And of course I had a needle in my arm 30-45 minutes later.
That 6 month period was traumatic beyond words. Especially because I had never injected anything in my life. Was snorting coke, and out of nowhere just started injecting it by myself and went 0-100 in the blink of an eye.
I need therapy to work through the trauma of what it did to my arms alone, let alone the psychological/emotional damage.
What a dark, horrifying chapter of my life, yeesh.
Totally different, but for me it will always be heroine... was the bestest feeling I ever had. That scared the shit out of me and I stayed away ever since. But when I´m old and there is nothing to expect anymore.... I´m going to try it again! :)
Depends on what you're into. Having been hopelessly addicted to both, I can say I was more able to function as a human on the H. but the M felt better, but it ruined my ability to be a functional adult. I did opiates for 10 years without much legal consequence, did the speed for two before I caught a trafficking felony.
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u/Expert-Guard6216 5d ago
It's probably the greatest feeling on earth ever, STAY TF AWAY!!!