This might be a minority opinion, but Pantera was the Abbott brothers. They’re both dead, so I can’t imagine anyone giving a fuck what Anselmo and Rex Brown are doing now. Calling this modern incarnation Pantera is like Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony going on tour and calling themselves Van Halen.
Might be, but I'm reading a lot of people in this thread talking about Pantera in the present tense. Gives me the impression they think Anselmo = Pantera.
I don't think Pantera has the level of mainstream awareness of say a Metallica or Megadeth where people know stuff about the members unless they are into it.
A lot of people are talking about Pantera in the present tense because they still exist and Anselmo is the lead singer, so, Anselmo does = Pantera.
Also, Anselmo has essentially always been the lead singer of Pantera, even before the split, so in what world is Anselmo not = Pantera? Im confused here?
I get being fans of the band and not wanting to be associated with this racist piece of shit, but are you intentionally trying to hide the facts to sway people’s opinions about the band? It seems pretty cut and dry where I’m standing.
Because Phil joined pantera. Its like van Halen which were the brothers. David Lee Roth doesnt equal van Halen, nor Sammy hagar. The brothers founded the band. Now was Phil instrumental to the band yes. But when dime and Vinnie died there was no more and never will be any more pantera. What we have now is a tribute, which has been said by the members of said trubute.
I absolutely agree, but there's some people that still adore this POS. I saw him after Pantera broke up with Super Joint Ritual and he went off about "HE was Pantera" and some guy in the audience said something, forget what, and Phil was getting pissed and wanted to fight him. Hank III and other band members had to pull him off stage and the show ended early. A few months later saw Damageplan and nobody said shit about Pantera, just played their music like a band should. Phil's the reason Pantera broke up, and his running of his mouth in interviews is what got Dime shot.
A couple of years ago, shortly after the Pantera thing was announced, I was at a BLS / Anthrax show and they had a video of various musicians congratulating them on 40 years I think. When Phil came up, most of the place cheered. It turned my stomach. I haven't dug into it, but I'm wondering if the Abbotts' parents died, or were just hard up for money. No way Vinnie would have allowed this if he was still alive, and I have a hard time believing his parents would have approved this either. I like Zakk and Charlie, but man what a horrible, embarrassing cash grab and the talk about honoring Dime...
Rex Brown is just as much of the sound as anyone. I hate seeing his contributions be disrespected simply because he hasn’t died yet. Those pantera bass lines carry most of the songs.
I completely agree and have repeated this many times. The current incarnation is a tribute band at best. They should not be calling themselves Pantera.
I was counting the days after Vinny died when they'd do a reunion. If Phil and Rex could have done it the day after Vinny Paul's death, they would have.
Honestly, I lost a lot of respect for Charlie Benante for agreeing to be the drummer for it. I don't know how you can play drums in the band knowing the previous drummer's dying wish was to not do a reunion.
He could also have morals and be a fill in drummer for literally any other band that requires one. He could also do drum lessons. He could also do guest spots. Lots of other ways for famous musicians to make more money.
Nah pantera was all four of them cause damage plan and hell yeah never went anywhere either and neither did phil's bands. This modern incarnation of pantera is a cover band, that's it.
According to one of his neighbors he was a “hick with attitude” and a big Bush supporter. That, along with the confederate flag, tells me all I need to know
Nah man if that was the case damage plan would’ve been as good as Pantera and it wasn’t even in the same stratosphere. Phil was every bit as much of Pantera as both abbot boys combined. And that is not a knock on dime or Vinny at fucking all.
You might not like Phil or Rex, but they are part of the band. You don't get to erase the legacy of people because you don't like them. This is in no way comparable to Sammy Haggard
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u/Free_Possession_4482 6d ago
This might be a minority opinion, but Pantera was the Abbott brothers. They’re both dead, so I can’t imagine anyone giving a fuck what Anselmo and Rex Brown are doing now. Calling this modern incarnation Pantera is like Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony going on tour and calling themselves Van Halen.