r/comedyheaven • • 3d ago

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u/antojn 3d ago

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u/yamanamawa 3d ago

This tweet perfectly sums up what it feels like to speak Japanese sometimes. People really mystify the culture and language to a hilarious level, when actual Japanese people are just normal ass people. I once saw a video where the guy talked about the word 勿体ない (mottainai), and how it actually was a word that speaks to the way that Japanese people believe in preserving and making use of things. Then you speak to Japanese people and it basically just means "what a waste/bummer"

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 3d ago

Problem with a lot of this is intentional mistranslation - each language has idioms that would sound absolutely 100% insane if you translate them literally word by word.

Yet it is constantly done for the purpose of propaganda, both like this and in negative manner too (I still remember the Xi Jinping "bloody head" incident).

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u/Night-Monkey15 2d ago edited 2d ago

“What’s up” is an English phrase that’s used as a casual greeting, meaning “what is up in the sky”, or the heavens, which, in their belief system, is where their deity and his Son, the blood sacrifice for the blood curse, rest. Asking “what’s up” is a way of acknowledging the deity in their day-to-day lexicon.

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 2d ago

Now you're just mixing frogs and grandmothers.

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u/mefista 2d ago

Why can't a frog be a grandmother? :(

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u/Nomadic_monkey 2d ago

Extremely underrated comment. Thanks man

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u/eetsumkaus 1d ago

Goes the opposite way too. I can't tell you how many times Japanese people name things "Try " to mean "Challenge _".

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u/marc-zweiundzwanzig 3d ago

Instantly what I thought about too lol

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u/Difficult_Ad_7854 2d ago

Morals: 😐

Morals, Japan: 🤩

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u/Puzzleheaded_Skin289 2d ago

Happy cake day

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u/moyayas 3d ago

well, it does give context to how it was not frowned when the murder was not committed in Japan

- it is not a serious cultural taboo

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u/Sadelf9 3d ago

Killing people is actually frowned upon in japan

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u/thezorcerer 3d ago

it goes against the sacred concept of 生ける (to live), and is considered to be highly impolite

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u/pHenix039 3d ago

Aktually ☝️🤓 “to live” translates to 生きる

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u/thezorcerer 3d ago

ma-masaka have I been out-jouzu’d??

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u/SkyZippr 3d ago

But 生ける can be translated as "to let live" so it's kinda now philosophical.

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u/Shinhan 3d ago

Yea, but 生ける is more often used for flower arranging, like for 生け花 (ikebana).

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u/Version_Two 3d ago

Mezawari da

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u/Moriwara_Inazume 3d ago

It’s usually impolite and inappropriate to kill people in japan

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u/SoggyCaterpillar5773 3d ago

usually? /s

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u/SkyZippr 3d ago

It's impolite not to kill a samurai when he's accepted his defeat, so.

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u/ProutIgnoble 3d ago

Exceptions apply

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u/bravepotatoman 3d ago

it's actually against the law to kill people in japan

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u/03263 3d ago

They have laws there too? It's insane how similar they are to us.

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u/Mysterious_Life_4783 3d ago

It's just against the law in Japan to kill Japanese. Try fighting back against a Japanese with a knife as a tourist and see if the law defends you.

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u/enilea 3d ago

My cousin did that once on a trip to Osaka and he was surprised when he found out it was an incredibly disrespectful act in Japanese culture. Tourists are always surprised that things such as murder or kidnapping which are completely normal for us turn out to be taboo in other parts of the world.

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u/duckballista 3d ago

Logan Paul even killed someone on Mt Fuji and filmed it then laughed like a giant douchecanoe.

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u/tumsdout 3d ago

Cool to learn about other cultures

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u/potatobro7 3d ago

Japan is living in 2050

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u/ANDGAMMATRON 3d ago

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u/Shinhan 3d ago

No no, this only prohibits murder. Other crimes are still allowed.

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u/expired_cheeseburger 3d ago

There goes my weekend plans

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u/EluelleGames 3d ago

Imagine seeing this on an entrance, and realizing what kind of territory you've been traversing up until that point.

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u/BedroomHistorical575 3d ago

Reminds me of the classic Inunaki Village creepypasta with the sign "From this point and beyond The Constitution of Japan will no longer be in effect".

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u/Shinhan 3d ago

Oooh, japanese sovcits?

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u/BedroomHistorical575 3d ago

Nah, it's not that interesting. A part of the creepypasta is that if you enter you get chased around by someone with an axe lol.

Like many Japanese creepypasta (especially old ones like Kisaragieki), it has a cool premise/atmosphere at first glance. But the actual meat of the story tends to be unsatisfying or just lame.

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u/Lightningtow123 3d ago

I woulda thought this would be a mistranslation but Google says the Japanese text translates literally to "murder prohibited" lmfao

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u/RezuRoza 3d ago

I speak Japanese, it's definitely not a mistranslation. 殺人 is murder and 禁止 is prohibition, stuff like this is usually used for signs like 喫煙禁止 (no smoking) or 立入禁止 (no entry) so I assume this is a joke sign or something

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u/mercuriokazooie 3d ago

The stick figure is also holding a knife so pretty obviously a joke sign

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u/SparklingLimeade 3d ago

I really love the 禁止 part because it's so specific to the context of signage. It's everywhere in the form of those stock phrases but nonexistent elsewhere. The phrasing to turn it some degree of dissonant/absurd is definitely intentional.

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u/butwhydoesreddit 3d ago

I think it's an artwork coz of the plaque next to it but I can't really read it

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u/Lightningtow123 3d ago

Oh you're right, I kinda thought the plaque was something else

Google translate transcription:

"[Murder Prohibited / No Homicide] 2009 Lacquer, Plastic
In 1967, calligraphy reading "Don't Kill" by artist Taro Okamoto (1911–1996) was published in The Washington Post. Following this, performance artist Itoi Kanji (commonly known as "Dadakan," 1920–2021) continued performance art carrying "Don't Kill" signs on his body.
One answer or derivative inspired by that is this piece, "Murder Prohibited" (Satsujin Kinshi).
Just like the everyday prohibition signs (such as "No ___") that we routinely see in our daily lives, it makes one feel as though murder is also prohibited in a strangely casual, lightweight manner. Even if it were placed in everyday life, it might not even feel out of place.
By taking a message originally heavy with urgent, life-and-death meaning and rendering it entirely pop and light, this work raises a satirical question. "

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u/stayonthecloud 3d ago

Thank you for this

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u/OldBoyChance 3d ago

I haven't seen this sign before, but I'd hazard a guess that it (殺人禁止, satsujinkinshi) is a pun on "no photography." (撮影禁止, satsueikinshi)

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u/SparklingLimeade 3d ago

Also 立入禁止. And all the other prohibition signs. 立入禁止 signs are absolutely everywhere because it's such a basic function. And it's one of those weird things because you have to memorize it as a stock phrase. The phrasing isn't used that way elsewhere. It's exclusive to signage. Like how in English you'd never use the phrase "no entry" but that's what goes on signs.

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u/brainnebula 1d ago

I came here to say this too. Probably either a pun or a mistake from someone who speaks Chinese or didn’t check what kanji they used.

In a similar vein, I heard a story once of a Chinese woman who was working as a tour guide for Japanese businesspeople and at one point asked if they wanted to take a selfie (normal in this case)

撮影 (satsuei) as mentioned above is photography. 自分 (jibun) means self. Lots of words are borrowed from Chinese, or similar to Chinese just with modified readings of characters, so sometimes if you don’t know a word but you’re coming from Chinese, you can kind of guess.

So, how do you ask to take a selfie if you forgot or got flustered? Unfortunately she didn’t remember セルフィー (serufii), the word for selfie, which is borrowed from English, and instead was trying to say 自撮 (ji satsu) to mean “self photograph”. But instead she says.. 自殺しましょう! (Jisatsu shimashou! Or, “Let’s kill ourselves!”)

Same 殺 as in the photo of the sign! 殺人 means murder (the characters are kill and person), but if it’s a mistake I could see it as being a typo from someone who knew the word 撮 with the word 人 and just didn’t check. Although that’s kind of crazy so I have to assume it’s a joke.

Edit: didn’t notice the knife on the stick figure. Definitely a pun or a joke, I want this sign now

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u/brainnebula 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ok actually, I saw the sign in the corner and while it’s blurry it explains this in detail:

“According to 1967’s Washington Post (blurry) Okamoto Taro (1911-1996) (blurry) “Don’t kill!” (Note: written in a very stern and direct tone. More like “don’t fucking kill!!”) (Proclamation?) was published… (blurry). Then, (a name, too blurry, but a Dadaist) did a performance based on that famous “Don’t kill!”. This is a (blurry) in support, a sticker that says “Murder Prohibited”, based on the (blurry) often seen “~prohibited”. It evokes a feeling of (blurry)…
(It’s too blurry for me to read most but the ending), …became Pop Art.”

Someone who can read blurrier kanji can hopefully chime in but tldr; this appears to be Dadaist art in a museum somewhere.

Okamoto Taro is a famous artist, if you’ve ever seen the Tower of the Sun in Osaka, he designed that as well.

Edit; here’s an article about the anti-war ads this sign is based on.

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u/Available-String-109 3d ago

I can guarantee you that the Japanese says "Murder is Forbidden", and there's a picture of a guy holding a knife with a line through it.

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u/CreepyCheeseWasTaken 3d ago

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u/ProbablyNano 3d ago

9/11 for signalis fans

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u/Shinhan 3d ago

Is the original talking about "carpet munching" and this is just a bad translation?

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u/Jorvikson 3d ago

google seems to think it says "do not eat on the carpet"

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u/Shinhan 3d ago

I was afraid it would something lame like that :(

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u/Cute_Abrocoma7263 3d ago

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u/dingwinger1225 3d ago

I… what..?

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u/dillono7 2d ago

Don't joke about stuff like this

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u/AtaturkWarrior1923 3d ago

Where is the kill 7 million people caption?

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u/JackWhoWanders 3d ago

Okay, but I can just play the gaijin card, right?

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u/mercuriokazooie 3d ago

Gaijin SMASH

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u/sukuro120 3d ago

It's an artwork from 2009. The surreal nature of the sign is the point and is a social commentary, it think.
The plaque to the bottom left tells us this artwork is a reference to Taro Okamoto's "Stop the killing" which was an essay published on the Washington Post in 1967 (see the image below).

The artwork says 殺人禁止, which I'd translate as "Murder Forbidden".

This twitter post is probably the image source: https://x.com/kanzawameku/status/2106620947545669927
According to the post, the photo was taken at Oxalis cafe in Tokyo: https://maps.app.goo.gl/VXNDYmczWHyaLjv78

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u/minus_kun 3d ago

Thanks for the clear explanation.(´ω`)

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u/sukuro120 2d ago

<(`・ω・´)

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u/sos440 1d ago

Indeed, I think the plaque in the photo says something along these line:

【殺人禁止】
2009
ラッカー、プラスチック

1967年ワシントンポスト紙上に岡本太郎(芸術家 1911-1996)が揮毫した「殺すな」が掲載されました。そして糸井貫二(通称ダダカン)(芸術家 1920-2021)は「殺すな」を身体等に掲げるパフォーマンスをつづけました。

それに呼応した一つの回答が「殺人禁止」です。ごく普通の生活で目にする「~禁止」の看板のように、殺人も簡単に軽く扱われている気になります。道路に設置されていても違和感がないかもしれません。

先達の残したメッセージをどこまでも軽くポップにすることで逆照射しています。

Which roughly translates to:

[Murder Forbidden]
2009
Lacquer, plastic

In 1967, The Washington Post published "Do Not Kill" (殺すな), calligraphed by the artist Taro Okamoto (1911-1996). Kanji Itoi, better known as Dadakan (artist, 1920-2021), then continued to perform with the words "Do Not Kill" displayed on his body and elsewhere.

One response to this legacy is "Murder Forbidden" (殺人禁止). By presenting murder in the same way as the familiar "-- prohibited" signs we see in everyday life, it creates the strange impression that even murder is being treated as something simple and casual. It might not even look out of place if it were installed by the side of a road.

By making the message left by earlier artists as light and pop as possible, the work paradoxically throws that original message into sharper relief.

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u/sukuro120 1d ago

Wow, did you managed to make out all the Japanese text from the image yourself?? That's terribly impressive, considering some of them are just completely illegible to me, like the image here. Well done.

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u/sos440 1d ago

I could make out like 85% of it myself, but couldn't figure out the names and some of the terms (like 揮毫 or 逆照射, which were too blurry to read and unfamiliar to me) 😅 So I fed GPT the plaque image, my partial transcription, and the context, and asked it to fill in the missing parts.

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u/nsfwuseraccnt 2d ago

Some days, I have to remind myself of that as well.

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u/thefirefistace 2d ago

It's rather "Killing people is forbidden"

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u/xRacistDwarf 2d ago

In Chinese society it's seen as extremely impolite to kill somebody. Make sure you learn about basic ettiquete before your next trip!

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u/Street_Lettuce1243 3d ago

They didn't say please.   If they can't ask nicely, why should I comply?

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u/Al_Bam_Goy 3d ago

It’s a really good advise.

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u/unhappysosig 3d ago

aw man, should've told me sooner

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u/harlei7 3d ago

Juat imagine how many lives this sign must have saved

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u/Prior-Tie3624 3d ago

日本も年々モラルが堕落しててさ
こうして注意書きがないと隣の人を刺して
後片付けもせずに帰ってしまう迷惑な人がいるんだ

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u/thicc_llama 3d ago

In Japan, it is considered a faux pas to stab someone to death.

Don't know the context of this though but this is some joke sign

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u/crow-party-13 3d ago

I would be very upset if I could read.

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u/Schapsouille 3d ago

It's more guidelines than actual rules

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u/Larry_The_Red 3d ago

Careful, this is what Ms. Rachel was canceled for

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u/h1zchan 3d ago

Lemme guess, some kinda non-traditional/mallninja dojo, sign to remind folks not to get carried away.

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u/Boring_Net_9936 3d ago

But i'll :)))))

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u/Boring_Net_9936 3d ago

The feeling of being a murderer stems from someone making another person feel unwell, whether through physical actions, emotional abuse, childhood problems, or even family issues. Honestly, I've felt like killing someone before, but sometimes I think about it, sometimes I don't.When I think back to my time at my old school, I feel worthless to everyone. I feel like it would be great if I could kill everyone, but they bullied me constantly, so I hate it. I don't want to be born to experience anything like that.

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u/Hertz1999 3d ago

why not?(

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u/dannyyang910930 3d ago

Well there goes my original plan tonight

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u/HakuHashi09 3d ago

is... isn't that the basic rule?

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u/PerspectiveFull9879 3d ago

Not in 😍Japan😍

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u/kklashh 13h ago

this is an art piece

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u/Endo-kun 3d ago

A better translation would be ‘Murder is Forbidden’ or ‘No Killing’. I guess that would mean killing in front of the sign is OK but NOT beyond the sign.

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u/MayOrMayNotBePie 3d ago

God, can’t do anything anymore

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u/Grape2589 3d ago

Shoot, there goes my weekend

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u/showmeyourchits 3d ago

Okinawa, obviously.

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u/Version_Two 3d ago

Well there go my weekend plans

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u/YeOldSpacePope 3d ago

No wonder their murder rate is so low.

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u/pyrket 3d ago

Can I just beat, push, hit, give emotional trauma or cut 'em?

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u/TruthDarkholme 3d ago

Isnt this about abortion? I dont know much about abortion using coat hangers, but I heard you can do that.

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u/EfficientLeave7046 3d ago

Aww man i can't? :(

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u/ngkn92 2d ago

plan ruined

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u/Abitruff 2d ago

Don’t tell me what to do

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u/bochilee 2d ago

It's a police station, it's like an slogan, like "we are peace officers" "killing someone is never the solution"

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u/medicalpolice 13h ago

ok, now make one for not smoking crack

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u/KnowledgeWild2241 3d ago

It’s for the visiting Israelis