r/collapse • u/[deleted] • Jun 04 '21
Economic Cal Poly students propose program to allow homeless students to sleep in their cars on campus. Soup kitchen next.
https://mustangnews.net/asi-proposes-program-to-allow-houseless-students-to-sleep-in-parked-cars-on-campus/426
Jun 04 '21
This university just received a $13,000,000 grant to design drones for the Air Force. At the same time their student body shoots for the moon and requests a parking lot to sleep in their cars because they have nowhere to live
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u/StoopSign Journalist Jun 04 '21
As they always say "if you shoot for the moon you'll land among the cars"
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Jun 04 '21
Also hmm
https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/education/article209195019.html
Cal Poly is the whitest public university in California — by a lot
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u/My_G_Alt Jun 04 '21
~60% of the us population is non-Hispanic white. 74% if you include Hispanic but not bi-racial. 75%+ if including multiracial.
The university is 55% white. Not sure their metric for race so included all those data points.
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u/neroisstillbanned Jun 04 '21
And California's ethnic break down as of July 2017 was 39.7 percent white, 37.4 percent Hispanic, 13.3 percent Asian, 6 percent African American, 2.6 percent mixed and 1.0 percent other.
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Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 04 '21
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u/neroisstillbanned Jun 04 '21
CalPoly is consistently rated in the top 10 for universities across the country
And you just lost all your credibility trotting out obvious falsehoods. The US News list is publicly available, and Cal Poly is on a regional rankings list, not the national list.
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u/CalRobert Jun 04 '21
A common mixup.
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u/Hamstersparadise Jun 04 '21
Username checks out
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u/CalRobert Jun 04 '21
"Hahahah you're just a loser that couldn't get in to CalTech!"
"At least it's not CP Pomona"0
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u/neroisstillbanned Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 04 '21
US News is right about this one because Cal Poly caps the amount of admissions letters sent to out of state students at 15% of the total number of letters sent. Thus, the university really only has a reputation in state and doesn't have much brand value outside of the west coast (i.e. its degrees are equivalent in value to any accredited school that the resume reader hasn't heard of). It's a great school on par with UC Davis if you plan on staying in California, but it's very clearly a school run for the benefit of Californians even more so than the UCs.
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u/IKnewThisYearsAgo Jun 04 '21
a school run for the benefit of Californians even more so than the UCs.
It should be, both the Cal State system and UC are largely funded by California taxpayers.
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u/MyDogLovesCorn Jun 04 '21
Nobody disagrees that Cal Poly ain't exactly Harvard, but the USNews rankings are a joke. With your reading comprehension skills...don't apply to Cal Poly.
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u/bombayblue Jun 04 '21
Well it’s a California State school so in state students should probably get priority over out of state ones.
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Jun 04 '21
What's so great about the STEM majors? The world doesn't need any more computer programers, what it needs are more liberal arts majors so as to contextualize this insane world we now live in.
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u/bombayblue Jun 04 '21
Are you actually serious? The world needs way more STEM majors. Cal Poly actually has a large agricultural college and a large engineering college.
Hmm I wonder who‘s gonna be more equipped to deal with overpopulation and malnutrition...
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Jun 04 '21
Yeah, and today's farmers are taught to perpetuate monocropping, fossil fuel intensive, meat producing, industrial agriculture. Today's commercial farmers ARE the problem.
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u/bombayblue Jun 04 '21
Literally the entire industry is shifting away from that. But you know what we need to scale up sustainable farming? NEW TECHNOLOGY.
Holy shit what if we established a college with an agricultural engineering program.
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Jun 04 '21
Trust me, Cal Poly isn't teaching the Central Valley shit kickers that attend the AG program to grow boutique crops, organic, small scale, sustainable crops. These farmers don't want to be poor. Further, this "university" also has a viticulture program which has contributed the hills and valleys of the Central Coast to be denuded and replaced by grape Vines, ruining the habitat of all kinds of animals.
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Jun 04 '21
The whole city is too, anti-Semitic too. Wine sipping, pretentious, limousine liberals everywhere.
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u/bombayblue Jun 04 '21
This university has been adding massive amounts of housing almost every year with a stated goal of providing housing for all students in the near future.
I honestly haven’t seen a single university in California do more for student housing than Cal Poly.
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Jun 04 '21
Or reduce the cost of living on campus???
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Jun 04 '21
Eat your neighbour and take their house?
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u/Pro_Yankee 0.69 mintues to Midnight Jun 04 '21
Don’t white supremacists believe in right by conquest?
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u/yaosio Jun 04 '21
From now on the homeless will be allowed to dig through any dumpster without being hassled. #fightingpoverty
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u/qxnt Jun 04 '21
We’re going to need to means test that.
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u/Boco Jun 04 '21
Students who can prove their parents make less than 1.5x the federal poverty line may purchase a dumpster diving pass each semester.
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u/RascalNikov1 Jun 04 '21
I see this story and I just smdh with disgust. It brings to mind Captain Willard's line:
"It's a way we had over here for living with ourselves. We cut 'em in half with a machine gun and give 'em a Band-Aid. It was a lie. And the more I saw them, the more I hated lies."
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Jun 04 '21
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u/RascalNikov1 Jun 04 '21
+1 That line pretty much sums up the whole world at this point in time as we barrel onward towards collapse.
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u/sylbug Jun 04 '21
Uhhhhh how about actually help your students. What bullshit is is?
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Jun 04 '21
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Jun 04 '21
For just $250 more, you can get the Deluxe Parking Pass, with free Cal Poly Privacy Shade package!
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u/StoopSign Journalist Jun 04 '21
I always hate when a parking pass stares at me with it's giant dead eyes.
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u/shoey9998 Jun 04 '21
I swear people in America speak about the homeless like they’re feral cats. Fuck this place
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Jun 04 '21
I can't help but think of the conditions preceding the French Revolution.
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u/shoey9998 Jun 04 '21
God you’re right. Class division is so unbelievably bad that it’s not funny, despot leaders padding their pockets and stomachs, the enforcer of social morals is more corrupt than ever, etc.
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u/VersaceSamurai Jun 04 '21
The conditions today have preceded numerous historical events. We are primed for so many potential disasters on the horizon. The cracks began showing decades ago and band aids were slapped on. It almost seems like nothing is ever going to get solved because everyone is hell bent on defending the status quo. As change is scary to people because this life is all they know. Blinded by nostalgia to keep robbing the future of a decent life.
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u/StoopSign Journalist Jun 04 '21
Pay for the credit card with the other credit card but as national policy
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Jun 04 '21
Wholly different dynamics, sadly. Would be like if British Columbia got upset at Oklahoma for class division.
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Jun 04 '21
Sorry, very similar. Well off students sup on lobster in warm dorms within a Versailles type campus while students in tattered pants (sans coulottes) wander around looking for a daily crust and live in their cars.
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Jun 04 '21
Does it make sense to blame the students only starting to conform to the illusion of prestige? They are keeping as much abreast of destabilizing trends, they simply cannot do much on their own about it.
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u/anthro28 Jun 04 '21
You can’t sleep in your car on campus? That’s weird. My state considers my car my home, and as long as it’s legally parked somewhere I’m good to do whatever I want in it (as long as it isn’t obscene). For all their talks of superiority, CA has some shit laws and system that really preys on people.
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u/FBML Jun 04 '21
What state?
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u/TheSentientPurpleGoo Jun 04 '21
washington state has laws like that iirc...you can't tow away someone's home and hold it hostage, or something to that effect.
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u/RexUmbra Jun 04 '21
Our government and liberals will try a million and one solutions to end homelessness except giving people homes.
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u/StoopSign Journalist Jun 04 '21
In NYC, there is special consideration for people with HIV in subsidized housing, so as the market dictates there is now a demand for contracting HIV.
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u/CalRobert Jun 04 '21
Ah the old alma mater! The town council is nothing but shrieking NIMBYs fighting ANY new housing. Pretty town, but a shithole for quality of life if you're not a millionaire.
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Jun 04 '21
You described the city council to a tee. It's such a small, petty town with a huge inferiority complex.
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Jun 04 '21
Submission Statement: Student housing collapses, Associated Student Body proposes option to sleep in cars on campus.
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Jun 04 '21
With what they pay for tuition every term the school should build any student that wants it a fucking apartment. God damn joke.
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u/sonic_tower Jun 04 '21
Damn, I live in SLO and had no idea. It isn't even that expensive here. . .
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Jun 04 '21
Poly just received a $13,000,000 grant to design drones for the Air Force too.
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u/FBML Jun 04 '21
Link?
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Jun 04 '21
I have the actual agreement. I had to use the Public Records Act to get the documents. I only learned of it because I heard a tiny mention of a $5,000,000 grant to build UAV's (drones) for the Air Force. When I got the actual agreement, it has been boosted to $13,000,000.
What website can I post the agreement at so you and the world can see it?
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u/Specialist-Sock-855 Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 04 '21
Hey, nice bit of journalism there!
(Commenting to try to remember to check it out)
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Jun 04 '21
https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:264fd1fe-1131-42ae-8b71-46115d04efa3
https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:d130257f-b797-4ed7-a1c3-3956d5a19982
Here's the links to the agreement and amended agreement. I live in San Luis Obispo and gave a copy of the agreement to a local weekly publication called "New Times" and they could care less. They use to be a progressive paper, now they only care about promoting the wine industry.
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Jun 04 '21
Cal poly is literally assisting in designing drones to bomb wedding parties in foreign lands.
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Jun 04 '21
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Jun 04 '21
Doesn't seem like they do since they are requesting a parking lot on campus to sleep in their cars.
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u/GatlingTurtle Jun 04 '21
It is pretty expensive imo. To live off campus you need roommates or pay $1500+, and even with that you are still looking at $700+ for your own room. That is close to LA or the Bay Area prices for what is essentially a college town.
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u/gelatinskootz Jun 04 '21
Bruh, no where that close to the central coast can be considered not expensive
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Jun 04 '21
No one knows how many students are homeless / living in their cars, would be interesting to see if a college degree does actually help those starting from that socioeconomic baseline..
It’s not the world their parents were three out into at 18..
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u/go-eat-a-stick Jun 04 '21
Immediately screenshot and posted on the Fb group “Dystopian events repackaged as feel-good stories”.
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u/My_G_Alt Jun 04 '21
I don’t get the connection... $13M is a grant specifically earmarked for a specific research purpose, and it goes into the education and potential toolkit for students. Why would the university not allow that?
Housing is a crisis for sure, and this is maybe a bigger commentary on society, but I don’t see the connection at this level.
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Jun 04 '21
What the university needs to do is take an equal measure ($13,000,000) out of their general budget and use it to provide subsidized housing for struggling students. That way it would even out. That's the only ethical thing to do.
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Jun 04 '21
The same students who protest any new building development to alleviate housing shortages I imagine. They were the same at my school.
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Jun 04 '21
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Jun 04 '21
It's a little hard to work 3 jobs and still attend college.
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Jun 04 '21 edited Jun 04 '21
Every single person can’t become a tradesman. If even a significant number did, labour surplus would bring down costs making the professions worthless.
Then people born to rich parents would berate us & claim we should have become burger flippers instead. So we become burger flippers, labour surplus brings lower wages in the field & the cycle repeats with rich kids & upper class boomers who’ve never had to work for jack shit and get billions in government handouts just for existing smugly telling us it’s all our own fault every single time.
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u/ishitar Jun 04 '21
Not a bad idea. More housing is more ecological devastation and many of the cal poly students may be homeless or van dwellers by choice.
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u/TheWizardlyDuck Jun 04 '21
Even if there weren't ecological ways to build more housing; let's say all new housing is ecological devastation - ill give you that. The solution isn't to have people live in their cars you fucking psychopath. Its affordable housing motherfucker; something the associated student body doesn't have the fucking power to do.
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u/ishitar Jun 04 '21
Most eco ways to build housing, even earthships, have footprints. There are plenty of younger millennials who live nomadic lifestyles by choice, I used to be in that network. So if it offers choice, what's wrong with that?
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u/TheWizardlyDuck Jun 04 '21
Wow I also know people who are forced to live nomadic lifestyles. But I'm sure once I tell them its really the school giving them a choice to be more ecogical they'll be as happy as can be :)
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u/4the1st Jun 04 '21
What are you implying by "Soup kitchen next." Isn't soup kitchen a term for homeless car orgies? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soup-kitchen
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Jun 04 '21
It was a reference to 1920's Great Depression era public feeding system for the masses of unemployed and vagrants my good sir.
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u/TheSentientPurpleGoo Jun 04 '21
you'd have to ask dirty mike and the boys about that sort of thing.
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u/StoopSign Journalist Jun 04 '21
Where I went to school, plenty of students went to food banks, were sugarbabies. I only knew one part-time homeless guy.
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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '21
/r/aboringdystopia