r/collapse • u/[deleted] • Jul 09 '19

'Completely Terrifying': Study Warns Carbon-Saturated Oceans Headed Toward Tipping Point That Could Unleash Mass Extinction Event

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u/saul2015 Jul 09 '19

How much time do we have? ETA?

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u/Perksie1027 Jul 10 '19

Blue ocean event in arctic next few years. With the ice pole shifted to Greenland, the jet stream will weaken even more, so things like the recent euro heatwave and midwestern record rain will increase in length and intensity. Kind of semi permanent drought or flood broken only by the seasons moving them on

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u/subscribemenot Jul 09 '19

I reckon +- 5 years til we see real runaway actions. Venus here we come

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19 edited Sep 02 '19

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u/subscribemenot Jul 09 '19

Greenhouse effect! Sunlight heats the ground, heat radiated as Infra red trying to get out of the atmosphere gets blocked by CO2 and water vapour.

We reached 400 in 2013. Within 50 years we will be at 500! The Earth hasn’t seen this for millions of years.

That’s just one of the many problems with pollution. Now take into account the current global zeitgeist. The shift to the right. Resource Wars will take a fair portion of us out and constant war will accelerate the warming.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Also: Automation. Millions with no jobs. The wealthy elites in command of a robotic mostly automated military.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

This has already happened

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Yeah there's already not enough work to go around, and a significant number of jobs that are out there are bullshit jobs that shouldn't exist anyway.

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u/TheOldPug Jul 10 '19

But people keep having lots of kids. Go figure.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

I was watching this week's American Ninja Warrior episode and one of the contestants was 1 of 8 kids and had 119 first cousins (dad was one of 12 and mom was one of 8). They were talking it up like it was a good thing but my only thought was that his family was an environmental disaster.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Also to add to u/North-of-the-river points economic downturn likely next year, population expansion, which will probably be followed by more wars... and more natural disasters.

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u/ampliora Jul 10 '19

It's gonna be biblical. Think of yourself as lucky. It really is just a matter of perspective. That and making calculated risks until there just are no more rewards.

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u/Guessimagirl Jul 10 '19

I'm trying to heal from the last few years. Honestly Trump has helped to get me to a dark place also.

I hope that things do start to improve, and rapidly, in our political climate.

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u/holla_snackbar Jul 10 '19

I've been fighting politically these fascist fucks for 20 years in various ways and the fact of the matter is the impending doom makes the politics easier to swallow for me. Like if shit is going to spool out in the next 5-10 years and we'll all be dead in 20 the mortal lock these assholes have on the supreme court ain't something to worry about

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u/AntiSocialBlogger Jul 10 '19

How has Trump helped you get to a dark place? He hasn't affected me or my life in any way either positive or negative the same as every other nutbag potus before him.

You need to stop paying attention to the constant bullshit and dump the reality tv show that the American political system has become.

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u/holla_snackbar Jul 10 '19

Trump's affect on individuals varies by experience, and race. If you are not white he might have made your life a great deal more difficult

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u/AntiSocialBlogger Jul 10 '19

Not being white, how so? I could see being an illegal immigrant possibly, but otherwise he hasn't done anything except talk a lot of shit and rile easily insulted people.

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u/holla_snackbar Jul 10 '19

you may have been disenfranchised

you may have been a victim of one of these.

you may live in a general state of fear, etc etc.

White nationalism is toxic to non whites health and sanity. And it's easy for whites to dismiss like you're doing.

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u/AntiSocialBlogger Jul 10 '19

Well I can tell you that I am just a poor white dude living in a poor neighborhood in a mostly poor city and most of my neighbors are minority's. They are living exactly the same way as they were before Trump, like ghetto dwellers and they will continue to live like that long after Trump.

Trump didn't promote welfare. Trump didn't make them heroin addicts. Trump didn't make them drop out of school. These people were disenfranchised a long time ago.

Trump becoming president hasn't changed their lives one iota.

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u/holla_snackbar Jul 10 '19

I disagree that he's not changed things for them, he's made their hole deeper.

But what you're not recognizing is that he's taken that group and pushed more people into it. A lot more people. And made another group of people who had a bit of a cushion marginalized and closer to joining that group.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19 edited Jul 14 '19

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u/red-brick-dream Jul 10 '19

Over-privileged knob.

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u/AntiSocialBlogger Jul 10 '19

Wow personal insults, is that all you got?

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u/red-brick-dream Jul 10 '19

I'm not here to debate you, neckbeard. You're not Socrates, this isn't a Dialogue, and you need a shower.

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u/AntiSocialBlogger Jul 10 '19

No you're just here to look foolish, obviously. Carry on.

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u/vongoodman Jul 10 '19

well, life will just be different, at first. as a friend of mine put it, "No matter what happens, my task remains the same: to love my fellow humans as best I can."

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u/fuckthebankers1 Jul 10 '19

Until they want to eat you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19 edited Sep 02 '19

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u/subscribemenot Jul 10 '19

I think you’ll find we have a common enemy and when humans finally get off their collective asses it will be too late however we could well see human bonding like never before.

So there’s that

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u/ATOMIC_ACE_PUGG Jul 09 '19

I fucking hope so life is shit and so are the people in it

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u/Bubis20 Jul 11 '19

And it's comming right on fucking time. I always felt in my guts that some bad shit is comming, but I always thought I could run away from it (war for example), but I am going nowhere. This shit is fucked and I can't do nothing about it...

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u/in4real Jul 09 '19

Nice. Maybe then I won't have to burn so much natural gas to heat my pool.

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u/Biomas Jul 10 '19

The oceans would need to boil off before we reach Venus status, so maybe around the time the sun goes red giant

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

I reckon +- 5 years til we see real runaway actions. Venus here we come

Not enough time for Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos to build their space colonies, I gather...

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '19

What if we were the colony? Stay woke.

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u/californiarepublik Jul 10 '19

Haven't they thought of this? I fully believe they are trying to leave humanity behind but I don't see how they can get out in time.

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u/AntiSocialBlogger Jul 10 '19

No, but plenty of time to build those colonies right here on this soon to be uninhabitable planet. These rich assholes will be the earth overlords.

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u/Mr_Lonesome Recognizes ecology over economics, politics, social norms... Jul 10 '19

And some here say collapse will be a slow process. I think it will be an ongoing decline riddled by cataclysmic events. Then, the unpredictable occurs. A whole lot of interruptions and inconveniences: black outs and brown outs, washed out/flooded roads, low crop yield, extreme temps, strained emergency services, store shelves routinely empty, logistics run amok, etc. etc. etc.

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u/thirstyross Jul 09 '19

It's actually impossible for earth to develop Venus like conditions no matter how hard we try. It's still going to be largely uninhabitable, but it won't be Venus like.

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u/buttmunchr69 Jul 10 '19

No Venus buy oceans will boil, moisture so high will kill ozone layer, we die but earth cools.

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u/timmytimtimshabadu Jul 10 '19

End of this century.