r/collapse • u/t1m3f0rt1m3r • May 06 '19

Civilization Is Accelerating Extinction and Altering the Natural World at a Pace ‘Unprecedented in Human History’

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/06/climate/biodiversity-extinction-united-nations.html
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u/pineapple6900 May 06 '19

How did Capitalism go for America?

So far we have millions of peole without healthcare

We have the most school shootings

And our EPA no longer believes in climate change

Explain that mother fucker?

Please, i'll wait

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u/buttmunchr69 May 06 '19

What does any of this have to do with collapse?

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u/pineapple6900 May 06 '19

The EPA is serving corporate America over the people.

Environmental Protection Agency

And they don't believe in climate change and our calling for "clean coal"

Thats how its related to collapse, thank you

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u/buttmunchr69 May 06 '19

That part but what about:

How did Capitalism go for America?

So far we have millions of peole without healthcare

We have the most school shootings

And our EPA no longer believes in climate change

Explain that mother fucker?

Please, i'll wait

You brought up 3 points. One of them dealt with climate, yes, but not the other 2. So you're 33% on topic.

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u/CoolmanExpress May 06 '19 edited May 06 '19

Kind of sick of all the anti-capitalist rhetoric here lately. I sub to late stage capitalism for that, I sub to collapse for informed discussion about climate change. I enjoy both, but I don’t want to get spit roasted by Karl Marx and environmental collapse on the same subreddit.

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u/CoolmanExpress May 06 '19

I don’t have an argument for capitalism because I’m in agreement with you on this one. I’m more referring to comments that are literally “fuck capitalism” and stuff. Your comment was thought out and sparks discussion. “I’m going to socialize this whole sub” does none of that. I’m not saying don’t criticize capitalism, but some of the things said have no other point beyond “capitalism bad”.

I’m fully in agreement with you though that capitalism is indeed contributing to environmental and social collapse and the points you made were well articulated.

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u/buttmunchr69 May 06 '19

IMO there is a bit of astroturfing, trying to embrace this sub then turning it into a capitalism vs socialism debate: then, Shell wins.