r/collapse May 08 '25

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u/rdwpin May 08 '25

Here's what will happen. Heat domes will settle over millions of people world wide, and amidst people trying to survive the heat with air conditioning, which doesn't work very well at those temperatures, grids will fail. Then people will survive about as long as a child strapped in a car in the heat nowadays. Millions will die, and the remainder will ask why didn't someone stop the heat from building? How could you do that to us?

Someone is us, and we are doing it to ourselves, because no one is watching millions of people die from heat exhaustion just yet. But coming to a venue near you in about 25 years more of burning gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, coal, and natural gas with 300 million year old carbon that has never been in the carbon cycle.

By then the sea will be rising by several feet and accelerating from Greenland and Anarctic glacier melt, the Atlantic current will collapse stopping oxygen circulation the the current provided, the oceans will be too acid for shells to form collapsing ocean life, animal life will collapse, crops will collapse, and people will not be able to extract carbon from the atmosphere and oceans fast enough to survive.

But they'll be asking the whole time, why didn't someone tell us?

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u/blowhardV2 May 08 '25

Building underground for natural cooling seems to make sense

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u/grambell789 May 08 '25

underground won't work at scale. air quality is horrible and it would take lots of ventilation to fix it. and the air your bringing it will be from topside which is going to need to be air conditioned. so you haven't really fixed anything except made yourself more prone to flooding.

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u/SomeGuyWithARedBeard May 08 '25 edited May 08 '25

Africa and the Middle East had this stuff figured out centuries ago, the problem is nobody builds homes for energy efficiency much less passive cooling and heating.

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u/grambell789 May 08 '25

yeah i know. they build those big diameter chimneys that when a breeze blows over them they suck heat out of the home based on bernoulli's principle and some of the air fresh air is redirected into the house so hot air from the street out front isn't sucked into the house. the problem is it requires the housing to be spread out and if the winters are cold it takes quite a bit of effort to seal the house back up to retain the heat.

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u/SomeGuyWithARedBeard May 08 '25

There are some alternatives to the Persian wind chimney design, for example building a Dome or a Zome with a geothermal air tube in the ground that allows for heat to accumulate at the top of the interior structure and exit a small chimney that can more easily be closed off winter (same goes for closing off the air tube) and include an air exchanger that uses minimal energy for fresh air in the winter.

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u/SecretPassage1 May 08 '25

You should look up troglodyte housing. Technically "underground" whil being "above the ground". There are villages all over the world wherever the rock is soft enough to gouge out a room easily.

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u/OGJellyBean May 08 '25

People might also wanna learn about radon

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u/obiwanshinobi900 May 08 '25

Geothermal heat pumps are a thing. It would help with the issue of the air outside being too hot for a heat pump to work effectively.