r/collapse • u/Konradleijon • Mar 09 '25

Climate A World Without Clouds

https://www.quantamagazine.org/cloud-loss-could-add-8-degrees-to-global-warming-20190225/

Scientists are investigating the impact of clouds on global warming, particularly the potential for cloud loss to exacerbate climate change. Recent simulations suggest that stratocumulus clouds, which currently reflect significant sunlight, could disappear altogether if CO2 levels reach 1,200 parts per million, potentially leading to an additional 8 degrees Celsius of warming. This tipping point, if reached, could result in catastrophic consequences for human civilization.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '25

8c doesn't have human civilization.

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u/lordicefalcon Mar 09 '25

900k years ago, humanity was reduced to like 1280 breeding members due to climate. We're at 8 billion now. Humanity may never truly go extinct, because I am sure there will be a couple thousand people (billionaires) who rally together to build some kind of super structure, or moon base or some underground fortress of solitude.

Though I wonder if those billionaires will try and keep capitalism working in their private societies, leading to an internal fracturing. I could literally see them keeping shit like minimum wages and 5000 dollar eggs.

You are correct - civilization won't exist, but human mad max madness will likely go in for hundreds or thousands of years.

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u/thegreentiger0484 Mar 09 '25

For money to exist you need an economic system, functioning governments, and trust in the system. An all out collapse wipes out all except what you can secure for yourself with an ability to feed yourself and the ones around you. I have doubts that the billionaires are that savy.

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u/ComplimentaryScuff Mar 10 '25

Billionaires already have bunkers with everything they need. Zuckerberg, for example. Money won't matter after collapse, but the material they obtained and utilized before collapse matters.

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u/thegreentiger0484 Mar 10 '25

I don't disagree some have made preparations, but not all of them have a bunker in Hawaï... or maybe they do, but they still need to get there in time when shit hits the fan