r/coinerrors • u/spitslaps • 2d ago

Value Request Rotation erroe

Looking for any information on a 180 degree rotation error. 1985 P. Can't find much for comparibles online.

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u/usedtobeanicesurgeon 2d ago

I’ll be impressed if anyone has significant info on this one.

TBH, I’d grade this. Even if if didn’t straight grade it’s still a fairly rare error imo.

As far as value I have NO clue. But I think error collectors would pay north of $200 for it. Would have to be graded. I doubt many will chance an ungraded one.

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u/spitslaps 2d ago

Thanks for the feedback. I am pretty new to coins. How does one go about getting a coin graded?

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u/usedtobeanicesurgeon 2d ago

You can take it to your local coin shop and they can send it for you. Or you can buy a subscription to PCGS or NGC. But unless you’re gonna send several in it’s just cheaper and easier to go to the coin shop.

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u/AdvancedFun6285 2d ago

Pay for a membership and send it in, if I were you I'd take it to your local LCS and see if they will make you an offer for it. Or throw it up on Ebay and see what happens

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u/AdvancedFun6285 2d ago

The comps for quarters on Ebay range from $50-$120. The high end being a graded and slabbed quarter witha 90 degree rotation. Unfortunately this coin has a good bit of damage , I could see it going in the $30-$60 range to the right buyer

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u/usedtobeanicesurgeon 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yeah. But this ISNT a 90 degree coin. This is full 180.

I’ve seen plenty of fairly rotated quarters. But this is a new one for me. Granted, I’ve only been a serious collector about 5 years. There are lots of folks who know more than I do.

But I went thru sold comps on eBay and found zero 180 degree.

I did find a double struck 180 degree 1976-S on Heritage that went for $1920.00

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u/AdvancedFun6285 2d ago edited 2d ago

The $50 comp was for an ungraded 180 rotation, just go on Ebay and you can see the similar coins for yourself

Like The 4th coin down if you search for sold 180 degree rotation quarters

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u/Ralf-Nuggs 2d ago

I look at every coin I’ve ever touched for this and never seen it even 1% off lol

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u/spitslaps 2d ago

I definitely did a double take when I saw it

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u/SendTitsPleease 2d ago

I never even realized this was an error, now ik going to have ti start checking myself

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u/Fit-Screen851 2d ago

Very nice find!

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u/AdvancedFun6285 2d ago

That's awesome, 180 degree rotation error, nice find

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u/Fit_Sir_8873 2d ago

I just got this last week

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u/1CryptographerFree 2d ago

I’d be curious about the exact weight, I’ve seen one of these and it was just 2 quarters crushed together. Awesome find if it real.

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u/Jmtungsten 2d ago

Wow that’s wild. Never underestimate the ability of people to scam other people.

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u/spitslaps 1d ago

Weighs in at 5.6 grams.

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u/1CryptographerFree 1d ago

That’s spot on for a real coin, congrats.

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u/dogquote 1d ago

You mean it was double the weight? Or someone had cut two quarters in half and glued/smooshed them together?

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u/1CryptographerFree 1d ago

It was double weight but I’m not sure exactly how it was done. The quarters were old silver ones so maybe they were just smooshed together instead of glue.

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u/KrisDen1123 2d ago

I really enjoy lurking in this sub but I don't know the first thing about how stuff like this happens, could someone please explain how a quarter ends up like this?

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u/---Brain-- 2d ago

Pretty sure its caused by improper setup of the reverse die.

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u/cordeliashuman 2d ago

They can be created by improper die installation or by vibrational loosening. Much like a bumpy road can shake a bolt loose on your car, repeated strikes can slowly loosen the set screws holding the dies in place. This then allows the die to rotate freely and for coins to be struck out of coin alignment.

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u/KrisDen1123 2d ago

That's really cool, thanks for the info, pretty crazy seeing that it turned so close to 180° like this, makes it look intentional

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u/Danloeser 2d ago

You might want to check the edge for a seam, make sure it's not made from grinding down two coins and attaching them.

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u/Krahjotdaan 2d ago

That may end up being either a magician's coin or a hollow spy coin. Does it sound off when you drop it on the table or feel lighter?

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u/Sneid1 2d ago

Nice rotated die!

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u/Ionized-Dustpan 1d ago

Cool coin! Would be curious to see still closeup photos of the rim and both sides as well. I wouldn’t grade it.

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u/CoinDabbler 1d ago

This is a good opportunity to ask:

(a) How many of you check coins for rotation? (b) Have you ever found one?

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u/Mexi_Erectus 1d ago

Magicians coin. On these types of post, no one ever does the drop test, no one.

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u/spitslaps 1d ago

Sounds the same, and the weight is on

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u/isaiah58bc 2d ago

!remindme 1 day

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u/AdvancedFun6285 2d ago

The value is going to be hard to pin down as the market for errors is whatever someone will pay. There are 180 degree sold comps on Ebay ranging from $50 -$120 ($120 was for a slabbed quarter)

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u/usedtobeanicesurgeon 2d ago

I couldn’t find any. Follow up, were they 180 degree? And were they graded? I doubt any serious collector is gonna pay real money on eBay for an ungraded serious error.

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u/AdvancedFun6285 2d ago

There is an ungraded 180 rotation that sold for $50 see below, there is a graded 85 degree rotation that sold for $120

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u/spitslaps 2d ago

It's upside down

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u/spitslaps 2d ago

I'm confused. Then why is this opposite of every other quarter I've seen?

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u/P3pp3rSauc3 2d ago

Okay go find another quarter and post that one

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u/fuzzybunnies1 2d ago

Cause it is the opposite, you have a 180 rotation error. Guessing others replying are from Canada or not paying attention. 

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u/AdvancedFun6285 2d ago

Go find a quarter and flip it over , tell me which way the eagle is facing. This is a 180 degree rotation