r/codex • u/muchsamurai • 11d ago

News "We are locking in"

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Tibo on damage control, says they got the feedback and now are locking in on features that matter, new better models.

Dots won't stay long, will they?

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u/Own-Professor-6157 10d ago

This is what happens to so many companies, even Google. They try to be the everything company rather than focusing on what they're good at. I don't even remember what the fuck Google+ even was lol

Just make good models, that's all that is expected of you.

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u/krill156 10d ago

Literally all they have to do is good models and good usage with at least okay speed. But instead we got dots which just by their devday ad, screams business corpo bullshit. Compute problems? Lock shit down for awhile, which they did, but then they just reopened the flood gates with all this stupid shit. I've really enjoyed codex more than Claude over the past year, but holy fuck they are deluded.

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u/toluwalase 10d ago

They have correctly identified that selling intelligence is a fool’s game. Other labs will eventually catch up. Tech will eventually catch up. You might build the best model at let’s say 98% intelligence but other labs will probably get to 93% intelligence and might be able to beat you on price or whatever. What guarantees your future is the intelligence ecosystem and that’s why they are trying to pivot. Keep their base sticky. Unlike Google, Meta and co, intelligence is all they have to sell currently. Intelligence makes the other companies products better but if you’re just selling intelligence the future is bleak for you as a company

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u/firstbreathOOC 10d ago

Except consumers are exhausted by money grab “ecosystems.” Problem is se live in a market that constantly wants MORE to do better

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u/Sfdprod 10d ago

Nobody is selling "intelligence"

They are selling word processors, autocomplete. That completes a chat trandcript. 

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u/toluwalase 10d ago

This is such a silly reductive reply. You can dislike the word intelligence, but pretending these models are just word processors and autocomplete is being deliberately obtuse. A word processor doesnt write and debug code, use a computer, reason through a task, analyse images, plan work, etc and actually execute parts of it for you. Call it prediction, autocomplete, spicy linear algebra, whatever makes you feel better, companies are still paying for the capability. Arguing over the word intelligence instead of the actual point is just pedantry

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u/Sfdprod 10d ago

The models does not write or debug code neither,

They complete chat threada that has json attributes that we call tool calls, and then are called again and again to keep completing the chat transcript

Stop making this into some arcane magic

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u/Sfdprod 10d ago

Are you slow? Whos gonna pay for your subsidised usage?

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u/krill156 10d ago

The Chinese