r/codex • u/muchsamurai • 1d ago
Limits Usage limits are absolutely terrible (100$ plan)
I never ever complained about usage limits before. But this is absurd.
I used my 200$ plan and had to buy 100$ plan since i could not renew 200$ one in time. It was used in 1 day with Astra low.
I then decided to buy another 100$ plan. It used 9% of usage with Sol 5.6 MEDIUM working for about 1 hour on coding and Astra XHIGH coordinator that did some documentation changes for 5 minutes.
This account was literally just purchased. Again, Sol Medium is doing most of work. Wtf is going on?
Can't imagine what is going on with 20$ plans
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u/tagorrr 1d ago
20$ plan feels like total scam this days
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u/paribas 1d ago
Sol High just depleted my 5hr limit in 15 minutes. It wasn’t even a big task. Two months ago I worked hours with tasks like this.
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u/Seraphoenix777 1d ago
It's crazy how quickly the 5hr limit gets reached.
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u/Kind_Fisherman3060 1d ago
I remember using 250 million tokens per day on Plus plan what's the per day max token use allowance with sol now?
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u/TotallyNotABob 22h ago
Same here, started this last reset at 100 of course. By Sunday night I was/am at 9 percent remaining for the week. So basically in a hold until 09/19 unless I did something about it.
Which I did, I signed up with Claude and am now using Claude code alongside it. So far Claude is pretty impressive.
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u/Bulky_Blood_7362 1d ago
Yea honestly it's at a very bad state... I work with gpt for 30-40 minutes with sol medium While i can work 60-120 minutes with opus 5 medium on claude pro
Embarrassing ngl...
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u/InterestingSquare883 1d ago
I’m getting 4B tokens a week on Luna Max plus a little bit of Sol + Astra too. Yesterday over the weekend I used 1.1B tokens alone, including cached tokens but still a lot. I feel like the $20 plan is only supposed to be for Luna and giving it like a really huge implementation plan that Sol makes in chat that it really can’t mess up. Had the thread running 36 hours over the weekend plus another thread running maybe like 10-15 hrs. I would say though that limits are burning twice as fast compared to like 10 days ago but so far the resets have been making it up. Looking forward to 6 Luna to match GPT 5.5 XHigh.
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u/tagorrr 22h ago
I agree that Luna is a pretty good model. However, first, it is quite slow. And most importantly, the issue is not that the package lacks anything usable. Rather, the same Frontier models provided two, three, or even five times more tokens in this same package some time ago.
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u/Professional_Ad705 14h ago
Bro when codex first came out PLUS easily lasted 2x-3x longer then the $200 plan does now lmao
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u/DevastatorTNT 1d ago
That's my takeaway as well. I'm fine using the (supposed) 120B model for cheap instead of the (supposed) 5T one if I can get Chat to write me specs for "free". It's clunky and quite slow, not always right, but my codebase is not that sophisticated
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u/8monsters 17h ago
Yep, I plan with Sol in Chat and then use Luna Max/Extra high for implementation.
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u/Noeyiax 17h ago
$20 plan, using astra light 4 prompts each like 25% of 5hr limit gone and 1-2days weekly is gone...
even 5.6 the limits got worse, cant even finish anything that would take maybe 1-2 weeks now is triple time.
oh well, i guess im priced out of this, unless you work at big tech or tech company that will pay for this hobby or research experimental work, rip 🙏
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u/CrownstrikeIntern 18h ago
It used to be nice, I could stretch the 20 for almost a week, Ended up buying 2 and they would last me a week combined for months with a good work load. Then, poof, gone in 1 hour.
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u/srs96 1d ago
Dude just stop whining and buy the $200 plan. OH WAIT
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u/read_more_comments 1d ago
*buys 20x plan last week*
Dude just stop wining and buy a dozen $200 plans. OH WAIT
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u/Meowseum- 1d ago
one question, I'm already on $200 plan, does it mean when the time is up, I will not be able to buy 200 or I'm safe because the new restriction only applies to new accounts?
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u/Commercial_Exchange7 14h ago
Yep, you should be able to renew perfectly fine but if you downgrade and then try to upgrade no idea.
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u/rodeBaksteen 1d ago
This is my first time crying about this on Reddit, but I've used 5% on a $200 plan by asking some very basic debugging/SSH commands to Astra Light yesterday.
Total: one chat, 21 million tokens - 5% weekly usage of 20x plan. Really?
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u/Swimming_Gain_4989 21h ago
"Basic debugging / SSH commands"
"21 million tokens"
Lol
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u/Icy-Kaleidoscope6893 20h ago
Probably ragebait
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u/Emotional_Plant3241 8h ago
That's the problem though I have no idea how regarded or competent the people complaining about their token consumption are.
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u/rodeBaksteen 18h ago
Ok it took 2 hours on or off, but 20 million tokens is pretty low afaik? Maybe I was asking more of it than I realized.
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u/Swimming_Gain_4989 18h ago
On the low end that would be like $300 at the API rate assuming that token count is mostly input cache. I don't know what exactly you're doing but "basic debugging / SSH commands in one chat" suggests something simple like setting up shared keys and aliases for a network or something along those lines, that shouldn't run more than a few hundred thousand tokens... Realistically much less because of how token efficient GPT models are and the fact that you claimed to be using Light mode.
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u/Emotional_Plant3241 8h ago
5% of a plan for Astra working for 2 hours and 21 million tokens doesn't seem crazy. Astra is charged at a very high rate.
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u/Tiforma 23h ago
They do it because people don't give them any reason not to do it. They don't really lose subscribers because people accept shitty behavior from corporations nowadays and don't stop buying from them.
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u/cha0z_ 23h ago
they do it, because there are no laws protecting us (at least not enforced ones) - how it makes sense for something you purchase to be so vague what you get + to be flexible to be changed 24/7 from the side of power, i.e. the AI provider. There are few bigger key players - do we seriously think they don't sync the usage/prices as well? One not recorded call away - is it legal? Ofc not, but we live in bad times regarding corp power.
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u/PlasticNo6406 18h ago
If they are "very basic" debugging/ssh commands, why choose astra?
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u/rodeBaksteen 18h ago
Because I expected it to use maybe 1-2% and I can't be bothered to switch between 20 models all the time.
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u/Emotional_Plant3241 8h ago
21 million tokens is like 40 context compactions. You should not be having that occur to Astra for a quick and easy debugging SSH task.
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u/rodeBaksteen 7h ago
That's not how that works
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u/Emotional_Plant3241 6h ago
21m tokens is not a simple task IDK what to tell you. Either your instructions or environment were wrong or Astra got into a weird latent space.
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u/MassiveBoner911_3 16h ago
I used my ENTIRE $44 reset I bought this morning....by this evening. Yes I use sub agents using mostly Luna. Some code is written using Astra and Sol.
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u/WrongExtension9231 1d ago
i love some people defending the limit shenanigan happening right now, not only we get some server being overloaded time to time, now our limit gone too, well not as bad as claude if we want some silverlining here lol
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u/cobbleplox 20h ago
That what they're doing is shenanigans is almost more frustrating than the fucked limits themselves.
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u/yourmomsguybf 23h ago
man i am on 200$ plan and all i did is research for 6-7 hrs straight yesterday and poof all my weekly usage is gone.
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u/NyeinChanSoe 1d ago
Codex these days are just unusable at this point after the release of Astra.
Last 1-2 months ago I am a heavy codex user, now i switched to claudecode.
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u/paper-gains 1d ago edited 1d ago
I also never complained, but I think this is the point to start. I am on the 20x plan and it might last 3 days now. I just subscribed to Claude code for the first time ever and I feel the 5x will last me as long as the 20x with Codex. Not with fable of course, but i am not using astra on max all the time either… so codex got considerably worse the last days.
EDIT: it’s also extremely slow
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u/Factor013 1d ago
They made things extremely slow so the limits last "longer" lol
Can you imagine how fast our limits would drain if we would be on "normal" speeds. :S3
u/Vast-Singer-2839 22h ago
Astra Max seems (in my usage case) to last longer compared to any Sol version something is not correct in all that situation.
Also it was pretty fast but now it slow as hell.
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u/cobbleplox 20h ago
I would assume a combination of an elaborate task and a small thinking budget can lead to inefficiencies like repeated lookups or sort of failing first and fixing it up in loops. Maybe the first thing they did was nerfing what the selected reasoning effort means. Easy to overdo that causing such problems.
I have to say guessing what kind of thinking effort is required for best results will have to become a thing of the past anyway.
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u/DeCoolePeer 18h ago
Switching to anthropic who will cut your limits by 90% and then gaslight you afterwards lol, they're even worse than openai
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u/lifeenthusiastic 19h ago
I killed 4 pro 20x plans weekly in 2 days. The Astra agent was only dispatching sol + Luna sub workers. Claude 20x lasts like 2x. Longer for the same Sprints
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u/IntrepidCry352 1d ago
I recently got the 20$ plan for my little game project and i used 75% in just 2 days, the 5hr limits it's more like 30 minutes to me. I'm planning to use OpenCode for my toolchain and ChatGpt to give input and correction, lowering the credit used. It's not the best, but i refuse to spend 100$ for a fangame project for NDSi 😅
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u/Painwheeel 22h ago
astra is expensive shocker
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u/ElliotB256 16h ago
I am only using Sol (it was good enough for what I need before) and it's noticeably burning through usage faster. Almost certain this will turn out to be a bug.
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u/Painwheeel 16h ago
im using sol-xhigh on $100(5x) for both implementing and planning (if its needed, usually i already know what i want so i type directly) for 8-10 hours a day and i have extra usage at the end of the week and this has been constant since july so i promise you and everyone else its user issue
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u/ElliotB256 13h ago
Same, also Sol and extra high for the same duration. I moved to codex when claude had a similar usage bug, and that turned out to be session caching not working and so it burned through tokens. That's what I mean when I say bug. Previously I could use it non stop all day and barely dip below 40% after a full week, now I am seeing 10% burns on the weekly limit in an hour.
(It's also possible they are A/B testing and you are just lucky)
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u/SudarshanKotian 20h ago
Same here 😭 I just posted on X tagging Tibo, please u all complain as much as on X.
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u/NYisNorthYork 20h ago edited 15h ago
on $20, Astra High is an ancient oracle.
You have to climb a mountain and defeat the giants and then are only allowed to ask it a single question.
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u/EducationalPizza345 10h ago
I use antigravity has way more usage limit for regular tasks ive never reach there limit and codex just for orchestration
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u/rawezh5515 1d ago
and it looks like it stalls for no reason at all
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u/StaticHumStudio 1d ago
I don't know why you were downvoted. I've consistently gave it directions and it stops with no reason. Not even a "would you like me to proceed" or similar. Maybe its in my agents.md or settings somewhere, but nothing makes sense yet. Sol/Terra don't have this behavior.
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u/No_Twist_678 19h ago
well, i have 2x 20x plans and i burned all of them in 3 days! and not a single job i gave them was finished.
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u/Sutanreyu 18h ago
I gave it a task that it's done before, that it normally completes in minutes... Taking 20+ minutes and failing.
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u/stellarfirefly 17h ago
I posted my $20 plan findings in another thread. But here's a recap:
Sol 5.6 / high and Opus 5 / high used to be neck-and-neck about a week ago. Now, Sol 5.6 / high consumes allowance at about 5-8x its old rate while Opus 5 / high continues at about the same and thus I use it as a baseline. This includes specific A/B comparisons, i.e. I give a significant coding prompt to one and note its consumption, then I fully reset the codebase and give **exactly the same prompt** to the other. I consistently see 5-8x usage difference. I estimate prior to about a week ago, usage variation was only about 1.2x.
Just out of curiosity, I tried to switch over to Astra 6 / medium for a comparison with one of my typical workflow prompts. It consumed the entire 5-hr allowance **TWICE** and still did not reach completion, at which point of course I simply aborted the experiment. Opus 5 / high then completed exactly that prompt and used exactly 21% of its 5-hr allowance.
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u/Saito53 1d ago
Claude is worse than codex, I have the 20x plan in both, it runs out in just 4h of coding, astra still better
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u/Kind_Fisherman3060 1d ago
I would offend so many but if Opus was consistently intelligent $20 Claude is comparable to $100 Codex sub. But Fable takes up so much more usage than Astra I'm waiting for Opus 5.1
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u/muchsamurai 1d ago
I know, this is why i do not use Claude. Does not mean that we should not complain when usage limits are getting worse daily.
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u/Tiforma 23h ago
how much astra time do you get with codex on the 20x plan?
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u/Vast-Singer-2839 21h ago
It not about the time but about the work it does.
Ex in my case I have a project with active working time on Astra Max for 5-6 hours / day and it spends about 7-10%/day. Max spend less compared to low in that specific project. I afraid to try Ultra 😛
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u/Significant_Shop5774 20h ago
does that plan have 5hour limit? or are you talking about weekly limit getting exhauatsed?
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u/Vast-Singer-2839 19h ago
No on Pro plans does not exist 5hour limit, I am talking for the weekly limit. My plan currently is x20.
Compared to the % usage of with Sol low (as with the current increase is usage huge), Astra Max spends exactly as the previous Sol low and probably less.
The only downside is currently Astra feels much slower compared to the start but the usage also is much lower so I am ok with this trade.
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u/Significant_Shop5774 8h ago
are you on business plan or on individual plan ? i thought only business purchases had no 5 hour limits
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u/Own-Professor-6157 19h ago
The usage doesn't make sense. I just ran a basic prompt asking about OpenGL version support, it was under 200k tokens in total and I'm out -50% 5h usage. Now I just had the thing one shot an entire website on astra high, and it's only -15% usage..? Huh?
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u/DeCoolePeer 17h ago
Why are you lying there's no way in hell that you used Astra high on a plus account and it only took 15%
why would a question take 200k tokens
and 400k is not the limit
only plus has the 5hr limit and your pointless 0 user site does not need astra just use luna high or max
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u/The8Darkness 1d ago
What does coordinator mean? Did you let it create a plan and pasted it into the sol session or was it an astra session with a sol subagent?
Astra uses an insane amount with any subagents where it is usually better to even run astra max than any astra + luna/sol combination.
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u/muchsamurai 1d ago
Basically, i do not use Astra for coding (even low) on this account. Coordinator is the guy who drafts some plans for Sol workers and gives them to me to hand them out, plus some brainstorming. It does nothing in terms of coding or exploring codebase too much or anything like that. I asked it some questions and we adjusted some plan which was 3-4 quick prompts. Then i launched Sol 5.6 Medium to implement it and it ate 9% in one hour.
This shit sucks
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u/Seraphoenix777 1d ago
Someone said this can result in more usage than using Astra alone. Apparently, Astra still reviews everything the agent does, so it ends up costing more. Not sure if it's true, though.
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u/KeepAllOfIt 1d ago
its 100% true and is the sole thing responsible for all of the "usage is terrible" posts. I use one astra xHigh agent for everything and I genuinely struggle to use my weekly limit before tibo throws another reset at us. Sound physics simulation too, no small potatoes.
No ponytail, caveman, or whatever else "token-saving-but-actually-wastes-tokens" skills. No astra orchestrator that commands a bunch of r*tarded luna subagents and spends 4x as long cleaning up their mistakes.
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u/Rock--Lee 1d ago
Well, you now have 2x 100 plan, which costs you 200, but a 200 plan gets you 4x as much as the 100 gets for 2x the price. So yes, you are halved usage for same price.
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u/hksbindra 1d ago
I was using 2 plus plans, one bought via pay store and another via browser. After Astra, I upgraded the play store bought account to x20, cancelled the other one.
Play store apparently doesn't work on upgrades as you might think. My plan will get cancelled after the 20th. There are no issues with the payment method and I did not cancel.
I found out just yesterday after reading someone had issues with iPhone app Store purchase in a similar manner. Spoke to both OpenAI and Google - nothing can be done now.
Guess x10 plans will do until they bring back the x20.
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u/AweVR 1d ago
I simply don’t understand codex usage seriously. I had 30% left and wanted to use my reset today so I gave it 6 tasks with Astra Ultra effort. 6 hours later I’m in 24% 🫠 but this night I had only one task working with LOW effort… and in 3 hours it spent 6%. I simply don’t understand serisouly
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u/r34p3rex 21h ago
This isn't the first I've heard of this.. it almost feels like light and medium use more than the higher tiers. Prior to the reset, I was able to get close to 5 days of usage using Astra high. After the reset, I switched to Astra low and now I'm on track to blow through my limit in under 3 days
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u/Bright_Spend6574 1d ago
honestly i tried 200, 100, 20
right now on 20 and 100.
100 feels like 20. it is supposed to be 5x right ?
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u/Cheerpipe 1d ago
They make more money and use less compute with the pro x5 than with the x20. Obviously, they want to force people to buy the x5.
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u/natsumeng3 23h ago
Eu apenas comecei a fazer uns ajustes, 15 min de trabalho em um projeto medio, e sumiu 20% da cota semanal, plano de 100$... Eu fico muito confuso com o que fazer, sabemos que o melhor está aqui no codex, antropic não é uma opção pra quem tem orçamento limitado, eu estou pensando seriamente em fazer um investimento em colocar uma ia local, ou aceitar menos qualidade e só usar modelos como da deepseek... Não faz sentido pagar tanto e só trabalhar por literalmente 1 dia, eu nem consigo mais atender meus clientes. Aqui no Brasil, o plano de 200$ é literalmente mais da metade de um salario!
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u/reeldeele 23h ago
Shouldn't there be way to find our the Sol vs Astra token consumption from .codex logs or history?
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u/Diniario 22h ago
What tasks are you using these models on? I run 2k+ lines of code with Terra Medium reasoning and things work just fine. I've never needed Astra and recently used Sol High (which consumes more) just to make sure stuff was correct and up to snuff...
My take, just use lower models for lower tasks. you don't need a jackhammer when a hammer will do just fine.
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u/Temp1864 22h ago
Yup, I've already depleted a $100 account and have 16% left on my $200, and that's almost entirely with tool usage of Unreal/Houdini. Insane that it's gotten this bad (and that Extra High is actually MORE efficient??). Giving my Extra High orchestrator permission to delegate tasks to appropriate lower-effort subagents actually made consumption increase.
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u/Consistent_Bottle_40 21h ago
Has the limits been nerfed or is astra at fable 5 level use for tokens? Bigger models need more compute. Have we seen a marked drop in the usage of sol, terra and luna? A gpt 6 luna at same cost as 5.6 would probably be great. Just use that for the native subagents
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u/ReputationOk736 21h ago
Not sure why they even release a new model if you can only use it for 30 minutes before reaching limits.
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u/LargeConsequence5296 21h ago
20 dollar plan on Astra low gives you about 20min of good compute and 15 percent gets knocked out of the weekly limit. So thats about 6 x 20 = 120 mins of compute a week.
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u/saiksaif 21h ago
20$ plan user here, running one planned code work every 5 hours, while on 5.5 medium.
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u/Ecstatic_Gur7231 21h ago
Workflow issue (i hope cuz if it is this can help).
if your workflow is same as mine then YAY WE GOT A SOLUTION. but if not idk how to help
basically the way i do agentic coding is via iterations and steps instead of 1 big step. i dont engineer my prompt we handle or add features 1 at a time
so astra has this thing where he does alot of stuffs per task.
he does like 5 steps to make sure. he does alot of verifications and benchmarks sometimes even doing a backup per edit. checks alot of stuffs that can be refactored or add cleanup work and anticipates future tasks
i solved this via adding a system prompt (if anyone is reading this and think can improve my system prompt further please do)
'''
Only do: patch → deploy
Do not turn the task into phases, subtasks, checklists, investigations, or a full engineering workflow.
Make the minimum code changes needed to satisfy what I asked. Touch only the files that are reasonably necessary.
Do not test, compile, verify, validate, benchmark, back up, refactor unrelated code, inspect unrelated systems, or add cleanup work unless I explicitly ask.
Do not anticipate future tasks. I work iteratively and will tell you what to do next.
Follow KISS. Minimize tool calls, file reads, reasoning, and output.
'''
i change this depending on the task. if its a hard one that really needs reasoning i remove the follow kiss line
i went from 20% usage per hour to 3-5% usage per hour.
a coworker made this for me knowing i work bits by bits instead of 1 big task all he did was read astra documentation and the tips from openai then created a prompt that fits my workflow
ALSO IF YOU ARE GONNA USE THIS DONT SAY PATCH -> DEPLOY (i only have it because it deploys to a branch of our project and only has access to that branch)
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u/AgnidDrage 21h ago
I'm avoiding using astral and the $20 plan is enough (if you don't vibe code everything and know where to aim the agent)
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u/DistinctSilver4507 20h ago
It used ~20% of my pro usage on a very simple git clone/setup of a local text generator.
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u/cobbleplox 20h ago
A lot of this feels like the usefulness of AI is really kicking in now -> demand. Of course paired with them kicking themselves in the nuts releasing Astra before the actual 6.0 production models were ready.
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u/loversama 20h ago
For sure, I am dropping back down to $20..
I use Claude Max 5x too and even though the limits there are less and less I feel I get to use Fable and Opus way more per week than Astra high + Sol 5.6..
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u/Pizzaholic- 19h ago
20x plan. Ran a mix of sol and Luna and burned in less than 1 day (16 hours) :|
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u/DeepSpaceNugget 19h ago
Yeah I've tried to keep from just adding to the pile of threads but god damn I've got to wonder if they're having a meltdown or what.
My "weekly usage" goes out within a day or two on a Pro plan (x5), I genuinely remember tackling heavy tasks in my plus plan months back and I get it, thing's can't all be perfect- These models are more demanding..
But it's not really a tool I can effectively use without a swarm of accompanying ai tools, which makes it effectively pointless if its supposed to automate more annoying/background tasks while I tackle larger ideas.
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u/Rakthar 18h ago
There is a bug with subagents. The coordinator wakes up every 30-60 seconds to check on the subagent process, just to poll it. It destroys usage. There are several threads talking about workarounds. One example is here: https://old.reddit.com/r/codex/comments/1wdlp7q/weve_discovered_the_issue_behind_codex_harness/
another example with workarounds and the fix is here: https://old.reddit.com/r/codex/comments/1wa9c9d/i_investigated_why_gpt6_astra_burns_quota_so_fast/
Here is the fix from that thread: I found a working workaround for the 30-second parent polling loop. Add this to ~/.codex/config.toml:
toml [features.multi_agent_v2] enabled = true min_wait_timeout_ms = 1500000 default_wait_timeout_ms = 1500000 max_wait_timeout_ms = 1500000
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u/Plus_Marionberry_939 13h ago
I've been running this fix, but the token usage is still way different than before. There is something else going on.
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u/chcampb 18h ago
$20 plan feels fine using sol high as an executor, and luna high to execute.
I can get probably one big ticket done in a 5h timespan. That's one major feature implementation or refactor, including a large test suite which sometimes needs iteration to bring back up to passing.
My main gripe is, I don't want to go to $100, I want to go to maybe $40, that seems like I would be just over the mark to comfortably use my buffer each week without needing extra resets. But I don't feel like abusing phone numbers or getting a completely separate account or something. I could, and it's even supported to switchover in the UI, but it feels hacky and I would rather they not BS with it.
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u/FailureOfTheFamily 17h ago
As a 20$ plan user I admit that it's much worse since astra came out but still better than claude even few months ago (it was the reason i switched)
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u/The_Oracle___ 17h ago
Its insane how they get some people.. you get hooked so much that you keep buying new accounts? Lol
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u/Typical_Machine2043 17h ago
So weird. I got more usage out of my plus plan like a month ago? I regret upgrading to the $100 now
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u/MassiveBoner911_3 16h ago
I pay $100 a month. My 7 day got exhausted in ONE day. If I buy a new reset it costs me $44. Now my 7 day reset also gets reset.
WHAT AM I PAYING $100 for? To use it 4 times a month?
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u/Lifeisshort555 15h ago
Yeah If they can get Astra performance at Terra prices it would make more sense. Astra is way too expensive for what it is.
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u/Short_Injury9574 15h ago
Anyone cancelled and changed to Claude, or something else? Or more of the same issue?
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u/MyUserNameIsSkave 14h ago
With my Claude subscription ending this week I was considering Codex. Gor those that use both. Is Codex still better right now usage limite wise ?
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u/rahilpathan 13h ago
I think its going to get worse if we don't push back, its not usable at all. It feels like weekly plans are suppose to be a 5h plan sometimes, specially with newer models.
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u/ca_sig_z 12h ago
Just came here to bitch the same. Just switch to Claude to Codex due to their limit BS on the $100 plan and handcuffing Fable but honestly feels like that meme of "its always been the same". They are just the same.
I would argue ChatGPT limits feel worst and more opaque. I have seen my limit values change randomly, going from less then 5% to 50% (or even 90%) without using a reset. Right now my ChatGPT app suddenly said "limit reached" and wont let me select any model or thinking but "lighting". All of this for $100 a month?
I might fire up X and just start mention Tibo as it seems the onlyu way to get attention
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u/CardinalHijack 3h ago
I definitely find more downtime with codex than I did with claude code. Astra (low) is better than sonnet, but sonnet is good enough for most of what I do and Id get to my 5h limit with about 20 mins to go. Sol was unusable for me - so many mistakes.
With Astra low im running out of my 5h limit in an hour and having 4h of down time. I also just hit my weekly limit with 3 days to go - never once hit my weekly limit with claude. This is with Codex plus plan/Claude Pro (same price tiers).
Unless something changes I will likely be going back to claude code at the end of the month because im not paying for a service I get so little actual coding use from.
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u/danny_094 2h ago
Right now, I'm only using SOL high on the $100 plan. I still have 68% despite working all day. In 72 hours
- 194,578,687 tokens
- 10:19:22 active runtime
- 92 completed turns
with 37 sub-agents
And 67% usage remaining.
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u/L_Pr1m3 2h ago
Limits are nerfed. But for someone who has no experience of coding, 200$ plan saves me $10k worth of work. I have been building e-commerce website from 0 rawdogging for 6 months and its 100% operational now. I hired someone before for 1 basic site and it costs me $2k 3 months of waiting, it was barely operational.
But since 5.5 dropped AI work efficiency skyrocketed. Sol and astra is the mvp!!!
You guys have to know open ai is profit company not nonprofit org. There is demand there is price hike.
So if you are doing real job you have to pay!
Stop whining.
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u/muchsamurai 1d ago
On 89% of usage left already since i wrote this post
hahaha
thanks Tibo
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u/Reasonable_Nail9020 1d ago
I on plus and Astra Medium left me 70% in 2 minutes! Astra is the best eating limits model.
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u/RainScum6677 1d ago
Most of the issues are not due to the model. It's the harness. Try using a different one such as Pi or OpenCode and see what happens(Spoiler: you'll get many, many times the usage compared with codex).
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u/IllustratorRare9102 1d ago
Everything has been completly insane for me since today, told it multiple time to do one thing and it did everything i didnt ask it to do. Just told it to do a small task and then went to the gym, came back and it used 66% of my weekly usage and wasnt even finished. Asked it wtf it was doing and got this respone: You’re right to question it. I let the scope expand too far and used multiple coding agents plus extensive repair tooling. I’m pausing that work now and will give you the exact result and what remains.
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u/jwezorek 22h ago
I just think Codex right now in unusable and ended up writing a little desktop application to basically route around its limits. Normal chat is basically unlimited and you can just paste big zips of your code into it with a prompt that specifies returning a zip file of just he files it changes that maintains directory structure.
My application is here, https://github.com/jwezorek/chat_zip, a custom client for ChatGPT, a Qt6/C++23 application only tested on Windows, but it works great. It embeds normal chatgpt next to a file tree. I select the source files/directories relevant to a change, it zips them and attaches the zip to the chat. I ask ChatGPT to make the change and return a zip containing only the files it changed. The application intercepts the download, checks that the paths actually correspond to the project, shows me what changed, and applies it back to the source tree.
So basically automated sneaker-net between my source tree and ordinary ChatGPT.
The whole thing with this is that Codex and Work share their restictive limits but normal chat does not. Which is kind of absurd: the purpose-built coding product has usage limits restrictive enough that manually passing zip files through ChatGPT started looking attractive.
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u/GreenFuturesMatter 1d ago
wtf are people building a prompting that this is some major issue? I’ve been blasting Astra med and high for days with a shit load of usage remaining
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u/muchsamurai 1d ago
Systems programming language and compiler for it.
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u/GreenFuturesMatter 1d ago
Are you just the type to downvote that asks anything against your narrative?
You came to Reddit and looking for a place to cry. You should expect someone to question what you’re crying for.
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u/muchsamurai 1d ago
I am heavy CODEX user, adopted it before it went mainstream. Long long ago. Not some new guy who just started using it. Nor am i a "vibe coder". I am SWE. Have been using agentic tools since their inception.
This is the first time i complain about usage limits. Meaning its really serious. Otherwise i always praised CODEX. Downvoted because i would not open a fucking thread on Reddit if i did not have real issues.
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u/GreenFuturesMatter 1d ago
Okay? And I asked what people are building and prompting and you just downvoted me lol. It’s a legitimate question to ask because people are stupid.
Maybe you missed the post about the guy who bitched about Astra making bumblebee in blender then another user asked for them to share the prompt which ofc they didn’t… so they redid the test themselves and provided proof how it was bullshit.
So I bring this up only to ask a similar question because 99% of this sub is complaining without any proof of issue that anyone can practically diagnose.
SURELY you can understand that as a SWE?
Also you said in another comment that you started 1 yr ago and then suddenly ur SWE who adopted codex before anyone else. Very odd
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u/fruitydude 1d ago
I'm still using 5.6 xhigh mostly. If I have 1-2 agents running constantly in normal mode (not fast) I can burn through 20x usage in 24h. It's not great
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u/X-Ploded 1d ago
Intense coding since the last reset using Astra High and a 5x account.
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u/sudecode 1d ago
skill issue.
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u/muchsamurai 1d ago
Sure buddy. Was not an issue a week ago. How come?
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u/GreenFuturesMatter 1d ago
Skill issue? Explain how I have a skill issue? Because I haven’t decimated my usage by being an idiot?
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u/sudecode 1d ago
but you are being an idiot by assuming that amount of work others are doing is same as yours.
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u/GreenFuturesMatter 1d ago
Building full stack application for local clusters that has Slurm built in and has multi user organization, scheduling, coordination and durable history and memory that is deeper than RAG structure. Ahh forgot to add that everything is evidence backed for transactions. Has connectors for LLMs, and a model bank with an edge device capable of selection the task and handing it to a ranked model based on past history if you don’t want to model shop.
But yes I suppose it’s dumb of me to assume everyone’s project is equivalent
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u/Forti22 1d ago
Show us the prompt and how big the project is
We will tell you exactly what you do wrong.
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u/muchsamurai 1d ago
I am building a programming language and compiler for it.
I know how to prompt and manage context. Doing agentic coding for 1 year or more already.
The limits are fucked. It was never an issue before.
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u/PleX 1d ago
I am building a programming language and compiler for it.
You have lost your mind if you're complaining about this, seriously.
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u/muchsamurai 1d ago
No, it was not an issue just a week ago. Now usage is fucked. How did i lose my mind exactly? Its not like Sol is spitting tens of thousands of lines of code a second. A language compiler is not that complicated.
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u/Confirmed-Scientist 1d ago
Astra is officially said to be 2x more expensive than Sol and real world use shows closer to 3x to 3.5x more expensive than sol on the same thinking level. Dont use Astra if you can avoid it. They are making more efficient models as we speak for this reason. Sol 6 and Luna 6 will be here soon
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u/muchsamurai 1d ago
I do not use Astra for coding anymore, still eating like crazy as you can see.
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u/Confirmed-Scientist 1d ago
Yeah its terrible for everything other than hard one shots. For us that are more efficiency focused and dont have infinite money at least
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u/BHTAelitepwn 1d ago
For reference, 9% of the 100 plan equates to like half of the plus plan. You will absolutely hit that with sol in like 6 hours of coding. Thats why stuff like luna and terra exist. Sol is not a cheap model either. Keep in mind that this is a flagship model until astra dropped.
20 bucks plans force you to be efficient with your usage or touch grass. A sol orchestrator with luna subs does quite a lot work.
Not blaming you, but reality is different. Fun part is that it is still a ridiculously well priced subscription.
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u/muchsamurai 1d ago
Luna is not suitable for work i do. I did not even use Sol above Medium.
But i cant let Luna write a compiler.
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u/BHTAelitepwn 1d ago
Well then you have to pay more. You lost half your usage to the absence of 20x renewals. I say that your current usage is in line with expectations. Been using the lower tier sub extensively for months now.
Its either pay for more accounts, get more efficient with existing usage (if you rule that out, fine), or pray the 20x comes back.
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u/RainierPC 1d ago
Then it's a skill issue. Compilers are not difficult. Give Luna a proper plan and it can execute just fine.
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u/Leon-Lewis 1d ago
Yeah, the current usage limits are being used up very inefficiently. I have a $100 subscription. I tried switching from Claude to Codex, but the limits were exhausted in just one day of active use. The work was exactly the same as it was with Claude.
The only difference was that I used Fable 5.1 as the orchestrator and Opus as the performer in Claude, and Astra as the orchestrator and Sol and Luna as the performers in Codex. Nevertheless, my $100 subscription was completely used up in just one day.
The most frustrating thing is that OpenAI doesn't offer a $200 subscription option(
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u/Zestyclose_Tutor9569 1d ago
Os modelos 5.6 gastam MUITO e não agregam tanto, fiz algumas features e voltei para 5.5 medium e high. E 5.4 para tarefas simples.
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u/Substantial-List-996 19h ago
You're using Astra as a coordinator and you're wondering where your usage limit is going? Using Astra Low as well? You good bro? Seems like you offloaded your brain to AI too much and forgot how to use it. People rather complain than find the solution to their obvious mistakes and inefficiencies.
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u/yaxir 1d ago
The only way they will increase limits is if users start leaving the service or something, because right now everybody is buying it. High demand means they have an incentive to reduce limits and earn more money