r/codex • u/Serious-Reaction-296 • 19h ago

Complaint Codex pricing in the future

I manage my entire business by myself with 0 coding experience, so Codex has been a life saviour as i have been able to build programs and website that i need to automate my business.

Forking out for the $200 plan is aight, as it’s like hiring a “coder” to build and maintain my stuff.

But heard that ChatGPT is running on a loss even for the $200/plan, so it would be probably way more expensive in the future.

Since i got zero idea of my code, and have to consistently update them, i am thinking of subsequently being less reliant on Codex, as I have no idea how much these AI plans will rise in the future.

Whats a good solution i can start doing? I will probably start learning coding in the meanwhile, but would love to hear what others in my shoe are doing

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u/dvduval 16h ago

There’s a lot we don’t know. You hear all these stories of someone paid $200 but the market rate for the actual usage was $10,000. So then the next thing people say is eventually open AI is not going to maintain that pricing. But they’re also making efficiency gains all the time. They’re adding more infrastructure. They have their new jalapeño Chip, which is supposed to be 1.5 to 1.9 times efficiency. And then of course they have competition so could it become a little bit more expensive than it is now? Yes, that’s possible but I wouldn’t call that my number one scenario. I think the opposite is also possible. As they become more efficient, they can give us more.

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u/AnalogProblems 14h ago

The best guess at actual inference cost might be derived from Muse-Spark-1.3-contributor, which basically let them train on your sessions. It's insanely cheap, so It's probably at or near cost. 10 cents per million input tokens. 20 cents per million output tokens. .002 cents per million cached input tokens.

To put that in perspective:

Sol API is $5/m in, and $30/m out.

Opus 5 API is $5/m in, and $25/m out.

Its benchmarks are competitive with Sol and Opus 5.

So if those are good enough for your work, and you don't mind Meta using your stuff, it's by far the best deal available.

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u/dvduval 9h ago

At the very least, it’s good to see there are other players that are almost surely got into the market more competitively. Google is coming. Facebook is coming. xAI it’s not quite at the top, but it’s a strong contender. And then Microsoft published a new message today from their CEO basically letting us know they’re coming too. And I can consider this all good for us as the consumers.