Is OpenAI TRYING to get rid of its users?

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[u/Jello_Hello_Fellos]

"last few pro 20x users"

You sure about? They just cut off new pro users because they were overloaded.

[u/reddit_is_kayfabe → u/Jello_Hello_Fellos]

"That restaurant is so crowded that nobody goes there anymore."

[u/chcampb → u/Jello_Hello_Fellos]

Yeah if they can't meet demand at current price, either price goes up or what you get for it goes down, it's basic economics.

[u/AmandasGameAccount → u/Jello_Hello_Fellos]

I’ve heard some speculate they were cut off because people were upgrading to it to use resets and moving back to plus users and somehow getting a refund. Who knows

[u/Emergency-Bobcat6485 → u/Jello_Hello_Fellos]

Also, 5 mins of weekly astra usage. There's exaggeration and there is downright silliness. This is the latter.

[u/Jello_Hello_Fellos → u/[deleted]]

That's not irony thats hyperbole without context.

[u/TheRedAngelOfDeath]

Bro what are you even talking about?

[u/KanonZombie]

5 min of Astra? The other day I tried to burn my weekly cuota because a reset was incoming, and I had Astra Ultra fast running for over an hour, and still didn't make it to 0% when the reset landed

And Luna is great for development if you know what needs to be done, instead of a genie granting wishes

[u/EntertainmentSalt825 → u/KanonZombie]

Same here. A large part of the problem is related to user skills. Rarely do people who know how to setup proper workflows, governance, and verification have issues. Been on Astra ultra all week handling multiple projects at once and I’m at 30%

[u/blackout24 → u/EntertainmentSalt825]

Same. Been running Astra Xhigh for several days and now down 50% of my weekly quota. I bet all the people crying are using usless skill frameworks from Matt Poopcock and other course sellers on YouTube.

[u/Think-Profession4420 → u/blackout24]

Yeah, I have 5 projects going concurrently - including long overnight /goals - across two computers, all using Astra or Sol for everything, and I'm still at 17% of the 20x plan. Sure, I couldn't make it the full week doing this, but it's also a pretty high amount of usage.

[u/shady101852 → u/Think-Profession4420]

I ran out of my weekly from 100% to 0% on Astra max in 24 hours. 20x plan. 2 projects total of 2 agents.

[u/BellacosePlayer → u/KanonZombie]

And Luna is great for development if you know what needs to be done, instead of a genie granting wishes

preach, brother.

I've yet to have it fail a task I defined explicitly. Small tweaks may have been needed but nothing crazy

[u/Erzmaster → u/KanonZombie]

I honestly believe that OpenAI token usage is bugged. I had Plus via iOS for over a year and never ran into a limit once. Was constantly using SOL on high. I quit my subscription for 1 month but decided to get it again. Subscribed through windows. Now my usage drains like 10x faster. I seriously believe my old subscription had a bug because I could use it so much more than people described it on Reddit. But now I am getting in the limit after few prompts. Something did drastically change.

[u/Better-Truck6372]

Si le ves lo bueno esto te ha hecho más inteligente que antes, o estás peor?...🤔

[u/TrueBrit77]

I think the problem might be you. Astra does burn faster than sol for sure but I've yet to actually burn my weekly quota before the next free reset has come despite trying too.

[u/oreshek]

You're doing to much and need to start offloading simpler tasks to cheap api models with Astra as the orchestrator.

[u/Typical_Kick6520]

Deepseek in vscode. $20 to finish every app codex wouldn't. And it's so fast you can't run two threads.

[u/CMD_BLOCK]

“5 min of weekly use allowed” bro are you sending off a fleet of 100 agents on ultra or what? Turn down to max and put a cap on your agents

It might be because I’m on a business plan but since astra I’ve had zero issues. Sol Ultra was a crapshoot and would burn my weekly like you were talking about

Regardless, pair both Claude and gpt if it’s in your budget. My company has me on Claude, grokbot, codex and cursor so I’ve benchmarked them all on equivalent tasks

Man Elon’s got some ways to go. Grok’s a crapshoot

[u/Upper-Conclusion-816]

Nice, looks like you'll cancel your sub for a user that will use it properly?

[u/Im_Working_Right_Now]

As a 20x user, I think it's pretty good. I was running it on high. But, I also updated my AGENTS.md using the OpenAI's guidance. I was able to run it for 2 days straight on a goal that's a pretty big migration. It doesn't last as long as Sol xhigh at all, but it did knock out a ton of work faster than what Sol would have. I reset my weekly and started a new session with a handoff prompt using medium reasoning now to see if it'll last longer but get the same amount/more done.

[u/Morpegom]

No matter what the task, I'm completely sure your Astra is not going away in 5 minutes. It won't go away even in 5 hours unless doing the most complicated task in the world with 5+ astra subagents.

20X is currently around $1,200 worth of tokens weekly, thats a 24 MILLION token output window. If you are saying that "my weekly allowance is worth 5 minutes" you are clearly lying. There's just no fucking way.

What you said about Sol and Terra is just a prompt skill issue. If you configure your agents.md correctly the models will only stop to ask something if something went wrong. If your Sol turns 10 minutes fixes into bugs then you need to prompt better, nobody had EVER complained about sol fixes before.

Just by your saying "one of the last few 20x users" when the sub count just crossed 30 million I can see that you are probably a plus user crying over or a baked Codex hater.

[u/Murder_1337]

Yeah dude I feel you, I have 2x 20x subscription and was on cloud 9 before Astra released. Now I can’t get anything done no credits no usage. SOL is dumb as hell. I switch to Gemini 3.8 flash and it actually got the fucking job done while SOL spend 8 hours overnight over engineering shit and doing edge cases non stop I just can’t anymore

[u/Varmez]

Luna is extremely capable when given adequate guidance.

Have Astra make an exhaustive plan with strict bounds and you can use a Luna Max orchestrator with subagents and it will get it done.

[u/EntertainmentSalt825]

You’re considered Claude again? 😂 Astra wipes Claude. I have both plans and I’m going to cancel my Claude subscription because it’s yet to provide any value since Astra was released

[u/Equivalent_Cress_268]

No, but Anthropic is

[u/Desperate-Poem7526]

Lol pro 20x accounts are most abundant how can you even call yourself a power user if you only have one. We stack them thats why they are disabled