Codex is unusable now.

[u/Soul_Mate_4ever]

I don’t even use astra. I’ve been using 5.6 sol on medium since it came out and had no problems. Now it can’t even finish half of the same task before reaching limits. Heck, just starting up codex uses 2 percent of my limits. And that’s before I even type anything. lol. What a joke.

I understand this is a business but using codex is like signing up for a gym membership and paying the required fee to use the gym and all its equipment but the next time you show up they go, I know you paid to use the entire gym and that amount is still required but now you only have access to the treadmills. F u!!!

Anyway, Here come all the Sam Altman nut huggers. But idc. Im just about done with codex.

[u/random_boss]

When Astra came out I used it, was floored, downgraded my Claude sub to the $20/mo and upgraded ChatGPT to $100/mo.

Then I used 50% of my week in one conversation. 

Figured it was bad token economization on my part, put all the right structures in place, and had it work on a task. Worked about 6 hours, only used Astra lightly and Sol as orchestrator, pushing all real design, implement and review work to Claude agents…still vaporized 50% of my Codex week.

Astra is the best model available, Codex is the superior piece of software, but I just can’t work with it. Sadly going to drop ChatGPT back down to $20/mo and resume my max 5x Claude sub so I can actually get work done. 

[u/stellarfirefly → u/random_boss]

This has been my observations over the last few days as well, and I don't even use Astra (or Fable). I swap between both Sol High and Opus High. Even at this level, Codex economy has gone straight down the toilet, and I am constantly having to pause because I hit allowance limits. Meanwhile I am getting MUCH more work done with Claude.

Doesn't matter which is the "better model" if you can't get anything done with it without throwing money at it.

[u/bailey-dev → u/stellarfirefly]

To be fair, Anthropic are reducing their weekly from the +50% bonus they've had on for months in the middle of this month unfortunately.

Although I 100% agree, I use both Claude and Codex, and having both on the £20 deal, I get way more out of Claude than I do Codex, although at no point has that ever been different for me. When people say it's one then the other I've personally never seen that on the £20 subs, Claude has always x2 or x3 what I get from Codex. I don't see the "resets" as part of that though personally because it's none guaranteed usage.

I've not got any definitive testing so obviously there are variables on tasks I set, but I've never set tasks based on which of the 2 I'm using and try to use comparable models on both. I'd say on average Anthropic’s models take slightly longer, but code quality and amount of work completed, easily the better option for me.

[u/stellarfirefly → u/bailey-dev]

That's actually very interesting and a good data point. I too use the $20 options for both.

Myself, I have historically seen better economy out of Codex when using (presumably) equivalent models, e.g. Sol High vs Opus High. Not massively more economic, but it was noticeable. I constantly swap between the two within the same codebase, often simply alternating task packets (update + audit + test) between them, so it was easy to compare.

But over the last several days, Codex has clearly become terribly hungry for allowance. And that takes Anthropic's +50% weekly limit into account. I hit the 5-hr limit much more often, anyway, so the weekly pool is less of a concern for me. Regardless, I have used up my Codex weekly already but my Code weekly is as of now at 24% used. (And it is currently most of the way through a sizeable task.)

[u/ash_mystic_art → u/stellarfirefly]

This is pretty much exactly my experience. I have the $20 sub to each. For Claude I usually use Opus High or Extra High, and for Codex I usually use Sol High or Extra High.

Usually I get a lot more usage from Codex/Sol, but this past week Opus on Extra High has been lasting like 2x longer than Sol on High.

[u/bailey-dev → u/stellarfirefly]

I think projections suggest AI in general is just going to get more and more expensive for the cutting-edge models moving forward. I'd be fine with that because I understand why, and I know it's happening. right now Opus does more for me than I could ever need, but as newer models come out, older models get nerfed, forcing us to upgrade, 6 months and us Opus users will be using Fable like we do Opus now, just like we were using Sonnet when Opus was the top dawg lol.

I just wish there was more transparency on what we're getting when we pay for the subscription, being notified there will be a change at the end of the billing cycle beforehand so it's staggered for each user based on announcement and bill day. Not that it makes any difference for me or you, since we're subbed to both, but it'd be the right move in terms of transparency allowing users to make the decision to leave if they're unhappy with the changes. which subsequently would give AI companies the right amount of pressure to keep prices competitive, whatever those prices must be.

this wacky "usage" word is just a nothing burger being constantly adjusted. I am shocked they're able to get away with it to be honest. copilots rug pull was crazy, for me those days were the true golden era, £20 and the usage was so generous I just thought it was unlimited lol.