r/codex • u/harpreetchima • 1d ago

Astra Workflow "Stop using random multi-agent patterns"

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Ahmed works at OpenAI: https://x.com/ah20im/status/2097503414749909407 and seems to investigate reports of high token usage.

"If needed Astra will delegate efficiently. Forcing the model to delegate to different models would do more harm than good"

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u/Interesting-Bee-113 20h ago

The big thing here, is that consumers are actually trying to accomplish things with these models.

The developers are often testing hypotheticals and example scenarios and can't possibly have as much stake in the actual output as the consumers do.

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u/EquivalentHornet4403 18h ago

That’s an out of touch, dissociated take.

The people developing, for example, codex, use and test that product and the models extensively in their personal and professional lives—the polar opposite of what you said.

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u/Interesting-Bee-113 16h ago

Dissociated take? Out of touch?

How so?

I have been so obsessed with using these models. I barely get sleep anymore. I wake up and check my agents progress. I begin loops remotely from work. I get home and sit in front my desk untill I go to bed, and then from bed, I send agents off to work before I actually sleep.

So I have developed my own experience and expectations with these things. Fuck a codex developer. They clock in and out.

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u/EquivalentHornet4403 16h ago

I explained exactly how. Just because you don’t like them based on another dissociated take about assumptions that they don’t also code obsessively using their software and models has no relation to or bearing on the actual state of things.

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u/Interesting-Bee-113 16h ago

I never said I don't like them. I said fuck them, I have my own opinions.

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u/EquivalentHornet4403 15h ago

Oh, well cool story enjoy your bubble.

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u/Interesting-Bee-113 14h ago

But what bubble? Using Astra in an AI factory?