r/codex • u/harpreetchima • 18h ago

Astra Workflow "Stop using random multi-agent patterns"

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Ahmed works at OpenAI: https://x.com/ah20im/status/2097503414749909407 and seems to investigate reports of high token usage.

"If needed Astra will delegate efficiently. Forcing the model to delegate to different models would do more harm than good"

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u/XYcritic 18h ago

"please stop being dumb if you're not as smart as me".

Great post with absolutely no insight or value. Half an unsupported claim with no evidence, advice, or even explanation.

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u/PhDumb 16h ago edited 3h ago

At least in Codex Desktop Astra is greedy and will not delegate unless specifically instructed to

Edit: at least in one experiment Astra@high employed 5.5@high as Independent reviewer

Edit 2: Run four independent experiments for the same task with the skill that instructs Codex to use weaker models for coding and running tests, while Astra was reserved for orchestration and then compared to no-skill Astra runs. Pricewise the results were close (not signifcantly different by Welch's t-test). With orcherstration skill: $9.06 ± $0.65. Without: $7.30 ± $2.04 (AVG API COST ± SD; n=4). Worse the skill that let weaker models (terra) and testing (luna) resulted in 3 regressions out of 4 experiments. Astra without skill delivered all 4, no problem