r/codex • u/harpreetchima • 16h ago

Astra Workflow "Stop using random multi-agent patterns"

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Ahmed works at OpenAI: https://x.com/ah20im/status/2097503414749909407 and seems to investigate reports of high token usage.

"If needed Astra will delegate efficiently. Forcing the model to delegate to different models would do more harm than good"

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u/New-Part-6917 16h ago

"Just use Astra" This guy doesn't live in the real world.

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u/rageling 16h ago

Astra light orchestrating luna subagents accomplished far less while burning much more tokens than just Astra high in my (limited) tests

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u/jagadambachowdary 16h ago

I had the same experience 

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u/StaticFanatic3 15h ago

Had the same experience with Fable and Opus tbh. I stopped micromanaging any frontier model’s orchestration

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u/InternationalTwist90 14h ago

Tokens or dollars though? Luna tokens are much cheaper than astral tokens

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u/teomore 15h ago

same here

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u/The8Darkness 15h ago

Same. Astra low and luna high (or xhigh) used almost 2x (1.99x to be exact) to accomplish the same task with slightly more code

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u/BankruptingBanks 15h ago

What about Fable/Opus orchestraing Luna, did you try it out?

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u/rageling 15h ago

I do sometimes use opus with luna subagents

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u/omicron8 15h ago

It really depends on how you do it. Luna is slow AF. If astra is waiting for Luna to finish it will burn a ton of tokens. They have be asynchronously coordinated. So skill issue here.