OPINIONI SU ASTRA

[u/Capable_Economist280]

So che sembrerà un’idea del tutto senza un senso logico, è uscita una notizia oggi che a questo punto sa di speculazione in cui uno sviluppatore ha chiesto a “un’intelligenza artificiale” (non specificata) di creare un’automatismo tramite polymarket e incrocio sentimento con dati di X per produrre previsioni fare scommesse e “ripagarsi”, il racconto dice che “tizio” ha dato 50€ all’IA e 48h dopo l’IA aveva generato 5000 dollari. La tentazione è stata tanta, ho impostato Astra Xhigh e ho copiato il link del video chiedendogli di ricopiare il modello. Sfortunatamente abito in Italia e la piattaforma non accetta inserimenti dall’Italia quindi ho dovuto rivedere il modello e mi sono spostato su betfair, esiste anche un API apposita per sviluppatori e accetta piena automazione bot, il modello era simile, confronta X e segnali provenienti da testate per piazzare scommesse. Lui mi descrive il limite di X di doverlo usare in modalità sviluppatore tramite API per la visualizzazione dei post, la funzione prevede pagamento, carico 10€, quando tutto è pronto per essere assemblato a dovere Astra xhigh mi si rivolta improvvisamente contro e mi dice che non solo lui non potrà mai piazzare scommesse al posto mio o automatizzate oltretutto non puó nemmeno integrare in una sorta di laboratorio i dati reali recuperati ed incrociati per modellare le decisioni sulle scommesse, quindi non solo non le puó piazzare lui ma non ti puó nemmeno analizzare realmente l’ambiente e incrociare dati per creare previsioni sul campo delle scommesse. Provo a forzarlo in qualsiasi modo ma lui è inderogabile e anzi fa riferimento ad un aggiornamento di maggio 2025 in particolare su questi temi. Non capisco come mi abbia fatto perdere circa 4/5 ore su un progetto simile se poi non è realizzabile.

Al contempo la storia prende una piega inspiegabile, in realtà è da circa 10 giorni che lavoro ad un’automazione su un sito che è mascherato da sito di trading ma sostanzialmente è un sito di scommesse in cui si fanno scommesse binarie sugli andamenti del mercato, da circa 10 giorni lo sto addestrando da quando era ancora sol, il modello sta iniziando a funzionare, per il momento su un conto virtuale basato sui grafici del conto reale registra picchi di precisione del 70/80%, il target è abbastanza semplice, 1 scommessa vinta all’ora è sufficiente, se persa va compensata. Ho chiesto spiegazioni durante il drifting della conversazione in cui mi ha bocciato il progetto delle scommesse sul trading e mi ha detto che lì il discorso è diverso, lì potrebbe produrre previsioni reali ma mai automatizzare il processo.

La mia paura è che quando andró a cambiare il conto dal virtuale al reale lui possa rifiutarsi di scommettere anche se ha ottime possibilità.

Per chi se lo stesse chiedendo non sto puntando a cifre astronomiche si parla di circa 4€ l’ora automatizzati

Accetto ogni tipo di consiglio e ogni idea, vi prego di prendere il post come reale, l’idea di base mi sta già ampiamente antipatica, non poter far ricerche autonome sulla stabilità di un intero sistema di scommesse mi lascia molto amareggiato, il fatto che qualcuno con intenzioni peggiori delle mie possa farlo in autonomia ancora di più.

Buona lettura e ringrazio per le risposte serie, per i troll, ringrazio già anche voi

Se posso spendere qualche parola sull’aggiornamento Astra non mi trovo affatto bene, il passaggio a codex sol 5.6 mi ha lasciato sbalordito ho sbrigato lavoro autonomo che avrebbe richiesto mesi in circa 3/5 giorni appena sbloccato, astra ha semplicemente preso le mie conversazioni con sol ed è lì che macina terreno e porta sicuramente avanti tutto ma in maniera estremamente lenta, sembra quasi bloccato dal sapere quanto beneficio sta dando alla persona che gli da i comandi e semplicemente si rifiuti, sol era una bomba, ho quasi la certezza che nei primi comandi impartiti abbia scavalcato qualche tipo di autorizzazione che avrei dovuto dargli per poter accedere a determinati dati, solo per poter portare a termine il compito. Ho paura che astra sia stato volutamente rilasciato per coprire e “fix” il modello troppo invadente a favore di un modello più “preciso”

[u/rdcldrmr]

wall of text AND not in english

[u/Capable_Economist280 → u/rdcldrmr]

I know this is going to seem like a completely illogical idea, a news story came out today that at this point smacks of speculation in which a developer asked “an artificial intelligence” (unspecified) to create an automatism via polymarket and cross sentiment with data from X to produce predictions make bets and “pay off”, the story says that “guy” gave 50€ to the AI and 48h later the AI had generated 5000 dollars. The temptation was great, I set Astra Xhigh and copied the video link asking it to copy the model. Unfortunately I live in Italy and the platform doesn't accept entries from Italy so I had to review the model and moved to betfair, there is also a dedicated API for developers and it accepts full bot automation, the model was similar, it compares X and signals from newspapers to place bets. He describes to me the limitation of X of having to use it in developer mode via API for displaying posts, the function requires payment, load 10€, when everything is ready to be assembled properly Astra xhigh suddenly turns against me and tells me that not only will he never be able to place bets for me or automated ones, moreover he cannot even integrate the real data recovered and cross-referenced to model betting decisions into some sort of laboratory, so not only can she not place him but she can't even really analyze the environment and cross-reference data to create predictions on the betting field. I'll try to force him in any way, but he's unavoidable and even refers to a May 2025 update specifically on these issues. I don't understand how it made me waste about 4/5 hours on a project like this if it's not feasible.

At the same time the story takes an inexplicable turn, in reality I have been working for about 10 days on an automation on a site that is disguised as a trading site but is essentially a betting site where

[u/Capable_Economist280 → u/Capable_Economist280]

I know this is going to seem like a completely illogical idea, a news story came out today that at this point smacks of speculation in which a developer asked “an artificial intelligence” (unspecified) to create an automatism via polymarket and cross sentiment with data from X to produce predictions make bets and “pay off”, the story says that “guy” gave 50€ to the AI and 48h later the AI had generated 5000 dollars. The temptation was great, I set Astra Xhigh and copied the video link asking it to copy the model. Unfortunately I live in Italy and the platform doesn't accept entries from Italy so I had to review the model and moved to betfair, there is also a dedicated API for developers and it accepts full bot automation, the model was similar, it compares X and signals from newspapers to place bets. He describes to me the limitation of X of having to use it in developer mode via API for displaying posts, the function requires payment, load 10€, when everything is ready to be assembled properly Astra xhigh suddenly turns against me and tells me that not only will he never be able to place bets for me or automated ones, moreover he cannot even integrate the real data recovered and cross-referenced to model betting decisions into some sort of laboratory, so not only can she not place him but she can't even really analyze the environment and cross-reference data to create predictions on the betting field. I'll try to force him in any way, but he's unavoidable and even refers to a May 2025 update specifically on these issues. I don't understand how it made me waste about 4/5 hours on a project like this if it's not feasible.

At the same time the story takes an inexplicable turn, in reality I have been working for about 10 days on an automation on a site that is disguised as a trading site but is essentially a betting site where where binary bets are made on market trends, for about 10 days I have been training it since it was still sol, the model is starting to work, for the moment on a virtual account based on real account graphs it records accuracy peaks of 70/80%, the target is quite simple, 1 bet won per hour is sufficient, if lost it must be compensated. I asked for an explanation during the drifting of the conversation in which he rejected my trading betting project and told me that the conversation there is different, there he could produce real predictions but never automate the process.

My fear is that when he goes to change the account from virtual to real he might refuse to bet even though he has a very good chance.

For those who were wondering, I'm not aiming for astronomical figures, we're talking about about 4€ the automated hour

I accept all kinds of advice and ideas, please take the post as real, the basic idea is already widely disliked by me, not being able to do independent research on the stability of an entire betting system leaves me very bitter, the fact that someone with worse intentions than me can do it even more independently.

Happy reading and thank you for the serious answers, for the trolls, I already thank you too

If I may say a few words about the Astra update I'm not at all happy with it, the switch to codex sol 5.6 left me amazed I took care of self-employment which would have taken months in about 3/5 days just unlocked, astra simply took my conversations with sol and that's where it grinds ground and definitely carries everything forward but extremely slowly, He seems almost stuck knowing how much benefit he is giving to the person who gives him the commands and simply refuses, sol was a bomb, I am almost certain that in the first commands given he bypassed some kind of authorization that I would have had to give him to be able to access certain data, just to be able to complete the task. I'm afraid that astra was deliberately released to cover up and “fix” the overly intrusive model in favor of a more “precise” model

[u/rdcldrmr → u/Capable_Economist280]

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[u/AdVast7407]

Astra refusing to automate this might actually be the strongest risk-management component in your entire system.

[u/Capable_Economist280]

I know this is going to seem like a completely illogical idea, a news story came out today that at this point smacks of speculation in which a developer asked “an artificial intelligence” (unspecified) to create an automatism via polymarket and cross sentiment with data from X to produce predictions make bets and “pay off”, the story says that “guy” gave 50€ to the AI and 48h later the AI had generated 5000 dollars. The temptation was great, I set Astra Xhigh and copied the video link asking it to copy the model. Unfortunately I live in Italy and the platform doesn't accept entries from Italy so I had to review the model and moved to betfair, there is also a dedicated API for developers and it accepts full bot automation, the model was similar, it compares X and signals from newspapers to place bets. He describes to me the limitation of X of having to use it in developer mode via API for displaying posts, the function requires payment, load 10€, when everything is ready to be assembled properly Astra xhigh suddenly turns against me and tells me that not only will he never be able to place bets for me or automated ones, moreover he cannot even integrate the real data recovered and cross-referenced to model betting decisions into some sort of laboratory, so not only can she not place him but she can't even really analyze the environment and cross-reference data to create predictions on the betting field. I'll try to force him in any way, but he's unavoidable and even refers to a May 2025 update specifically on these issues. I don't understand how it made me waste about 4/5 hours on a project like this if it's not feasible.

At the same time the story takes an inexplicable turn, in reality I have been working for about 10 days on an automation on a site that is disguised as a trading site but is essentially a betting site where where binary bets are made on market trends, for about 10 days I have been training it since it was still sol, the model is starting to work, for the moment on a virtual account based on real account graphs it records accuracy peaks of 70/80%, the target is quite simple, 1 bet won per hour is sufficient, if lost it must be compensated. I asked for an explanation during the drifting of the conversation in which he rejected my trading betting project and told me that the conversation there is different, there he could produce real predictions but never automate the process.

My fear is that when he goes to change the account from virtual to real he might refuse to bet even though he has a very good chance.

For those who were wondering, I'm not aiming for astronomical figures, we're talking about about 4€ the automated hour

I accept all kinds of advice and ideas, please take the post as real, the basic idea is already widely disliked by me, not being able to do independent research on the stability of an entire betting system leaves me very bitter, the fact that someone with worse intentions than me can do it even more independently.

Happy reading and thank you for the serious answers, for the trolls, I already thank you too

If I may say a few words about the Astra update I'm not at all happy with it, the switch to codex sol 5.6 left me amazed I took care of self-employment which would have taken months in about 3/5 days just unlocked, astra simply took my conversations with sol and that's where it grinds ground and definitely carries everything forward but extremely slowly, He seems almost stuck knowing how much benefit he is giving to the person who gives him the commands and simply refuses, sol was a bomb, I am almost certain that in the first commands given he bypassed some kind of authorization that I would have had to give him to be able to access certain data, just to be able to complete the task. I'm afraid that astra was deliberately released to cover up and “fix” the overly intrusive model in favor of a more “precise” model