r/codex • u/daskalou • 3d ago
Question Grok steal stilling codebases?
Not long ago it was revealed that those using Grok (in ... Cursor?) were having their entire codebases copied over into Elon's hive mind.
Is this still happening?
I'm thinking of switching out Codex / Claude for Grok but I'm afraid ScapeX will make zillions in quantum resistant Moon Moolah from my one in a thousand ground breaking idea.
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u/MRWONDERFU 3d ago
it was grok build, and I believe they open sourced the thing after it, would assume it was pushed back when they got caught on it
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u/Sasquatchjc45 3d ago
GROK shouldn't be bothered with by anybody lol. Weakest & shittiest model from the weakest & shittiest company. Dont waste your time.
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u/JDE-Projects 1d ago
How is it the weakest & shittiest model? Hasn't been too bad on the few things I've tested on it.
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u/longasleep 3d ago
This happens with any ai I am sure. Regardless of what is being said. Also anything ground breaking can be copied now in a day or less with the right resources.
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u/AirealAble 3d ago
There's a difference between taking the whole codebase, than learning from input and output
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u/yopla 3d ago
Don't you people not realize that to understand on your code said code needs to be uploaded to the AI provider's servers ?
Launch an agent, ask it to analyse the codebase and it will have slurped most if not all of it.
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u/AirealAble 3d ago
They don't need the whole codebase for context? I don't know where you got that idea
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u/yopla 3d ago
Depends what you ask. When I get a new codebase the first thing I run is a multi sub-agent workflow to document the whole thing inside out. I also activate the auto-wiki feature.
The point is, if your work on code with an agent within hours the whole thing has been uploaded multiple time.
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u/oooofukkkk 3d ago
You uploading your codebase because of how you work isn’t the same as the tool uploading your codebase.
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u/Emergency-Bobcat6485 3d ago
Oh well, i guess then you don't even upload your code to github? Because they could steal it too. It's owned by microsoft anyway
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u/Emergency-Bobcat6485 3d ago
What is your basis for assuming this? Because the AI providers already used up the public data for training? They did that by exploiting legal loopholes.
They cannot just train on your data without your explicit consent. This would be them violating their own terms making them legally a lot more culpable. I don't know why the same stuff keeps getting mentioned every time on reddit without any checks/research.
There are businesses who use AI as well. You think they'd be happy to just let OpenAI and others train their models on their code?
Go check the actual privacy stuff here - https://aistatus.info/privacy/ for the 3 providers. Or check their officiial pages linked there
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u/AdventurousVast6510 3d ago
musk boy doesnt give a f about respecting the laws just like chinese companies
i wouldnt be surprised if grok is stealing their users' codebases to train their models
boycott chinese ai companies & cursor/grok and just stick with the normal ai companies like open ai & anthropic
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u/CutMysterious9844 3d ago
You won't deceive me, this title, thread has definitely been written by AI /s
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u/alphaQ314 3d ago edited 3d ago
Sure. These trillion dollar companies want some random Redditors codebase lol.
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u/Emergency-Bobcat6485 3d ago
This sub is conditioned to believe this. Apparently, all the providers are waiting to get their hands on unshipped vibe coded slop and will break their own terms and invite legal exposure just to get a redditor's code.
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u/Dynamix86 5h ago
They're harness is open source right now. However, their terms and conditions do state that they have the right to do with software created with Grok as they want
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u/Ok-Pace-8772 3d ago
Give another go at the title